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Titi or swamp cyrilla as nectar source

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#1 ·
I was re-reading my old copy of Dadants FIRST LESSONS IN BEEKEEPING and noted that under minor sources of nectar for the Florida region titi is listed. Also known as cyrilla or swamp cyrilla. I have huge areas of titi growing here and had never considered it as a source for my bees - does anyone have any experience with their bees working it and what sort of honey it produces?
 
#3 ·
Yes can be a major nectar source here in the panhandle if you are near the swampy areas along the coast where it grows. There are two different types, Black and White and only one causes purple brood (the white kind) and it blooms later in the summer. Spring titi (Black) is just fine. I don't recall seeing pure titi honey from any of the local beekeepers however. I'm 30mi north of the coast and don't have any large concentrations of either to deal with.
 
#5 ·
When I went to pickup my packages there was a bunch of TiTi blooming in the low areas. It's my understanding that this TiTi is a major early spring nectar source. This TiTi blooms early in the spring one of the first major flow. We don't have any of this TiTi in my area you have to go about an hour north of me before you start to see it.

Now there is another type of TiTi it blooms during the summer around the first of June. This is a minor nectar source. And it is the TiTi that is associated with the purple brood. I have tons of it around my bee yards and I have never saw purple brood. Not saying it don't happen but, I've never saw it. It blooms about the same time as the Palmetto and the bees seem to work it more than the TiTi. The purple brood may be worse during years when the Palmetto fails to bloom.

Both TiTi like the same type of area low damp spots and they both have pretty showy white flowers. So its often confused. But, the big difference is the time of year when it blooms. The spring TiTi is almost finished blooming now and the Summer TiTi won't start until June. Hope this helps.
 
#6 ·
I had never heard of purple brood prior to this. And have never observed it in my hives. I found this online.

The plant Cyrilla racemiflora, most often called southern leatherwood or summer titi, can cause larvae to turn purple when nectar or honey made from titi is feed to larvae. In 1932, Burnside discovered titi to be the cause of poisonings of half the bee colonies in Florida that year. He named the malady, "purple brood", because affected larvae appeared blue or purple. Burnside reported that purple brood comes on suddenly and all the colonies in the affected area develop symptoms at the same time. Purple brood has been found throughout the southeast, linked to the presence of summer titi and is still considered a serious problem periodically in Florida, Georgia, Mississippi and South Carolina. At least a few purple larvae have been observed in honey bee colonies outside of the known range of the titi plant. -John Skinner, University of Tennessee

http://www.extension.org/pages/4412...-causes-purple-brood-honey-bee-larva-that-looks-blue-or-purple-instead-of-white