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My question is if you make a hive queenless and then in 7 days you remove all queen cells that they have started, give them only eggs in queen cell cups on a cell frame bar. Will they hatch those eggs and make queen cells with or do you have to use larva. I'm trying to make sure they are feed royal jelly from day 1.:rolleyes:
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All eggs are fed Royal jelly from day one -- its the queens that get if fed Everyday- all workers and drones are fed royal jelly up to day 3 - then are switched over to pollen and nectors -

reason that we graft 3 day olds is that they are big enough to move without harm and are still being fed royal jelly -

moving eggs is VERY risky as they are glued to the base until they are about to hatch then they fall over and hatch -

id read up on Queen rearing a little more before you start the process as it is a process that can make or break you - its all about timing

also when rearing queens one must remember that the queen is only half if the outcome - you have to have a drone poputaion that is of quality that you are wanting - chances of her offspring looking and acting like there father are VERY high

just some info that you should look into
A concrete-bees said, If the queen lays the eggs in the cups like with the nicot system it will work.
My experience with Nicot system and transferring eggs is ZIP. The eggs disappear. It only seemed to work with larvae.

Grant
Jackson, MO
+1 for Grant's reply. The bees usually eat any eggs you transfer. Teebo, you do not have to reinvent the queen raising process. Transfer larva that are less than 24-36 hours old and you will get queens that have been fed royal jelly from the time the egg hatched. Somehow, the bees have figured out how to do this very successfully without man's intervention.
May bee culture has an article on shipping, & transferring eggs with special tweezers.

Its something new that they are trying to improve for international shipping.
All eggs are fed Royal jelly from day one --
Would that be from day 3 or 4, after the eggs hatch into larvae? My eyes aren't very good but I've never seen royal jelly in cells with eggs. Then again, I can barely see the eggs with a magnifying glass.

Wayne
As soon as the eggs hatch, or emerge, or whatever you want to call it, the bees start feeding royal jelly. If they don't the larva will dry out real fast and die. Just take a close look at a frame of eggs/larva some time and you will see a tiny puddle of RJ with even the smallest larva. Waynesgarden, you are not alone in the old eyes department! I can see the eggs unaided if my son holds the frame up in the sunlight about 3 feet away from me but otherwise it's glasses, or let him find all the eggs.
>My question is if you make a hive queenless and then in 7 days you remove all queen cells that they have started, give them only eggs in queen cell cups on a cell frame bar. Will they hatch those eggs and make queen cells with or do you have to use larva.

I never had any luck with anything but larvae. I have tried eggs, but then I didn't leave them queenless for 7 days, and have no plans to...

>I'm trying to make sure they are feed royal jelly from day 1.

They are ALL feed royal jelly from day 1 (assuming we mean hatching as NONE are fed anything before that). All larvae are fed royal jelly from day 1. It's after day three that things change a lot. Newly hatched larvae are fed exactly the same whether a queen or not. Much research has been done on the subject... I know of no one who has come to any other conclusion...
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