What you are describing are not actually Langstroth frames, but Hoffman style frames for Langstroth hives.I'm sure there's a good reason...
...and you hit on the reason for my question. I wanted full-width frame sides but every supplier I see only sells (what I now know to be) Hoffman frames....I don't know the rationale for the End Bars on Hoffman frames, especially deep frames, to be narrower from about one third of the way down, to their bottom-most ends. Perhaps it is recorded somewhere, maybe in the patent description. I only know that I never appreciated them being that way, I prefer mine to be perfectly parallel, so their is no gap between the End Bars, anywhere along their sides.
Any pictures? I probably have enough woodworking equipment to make frames: router, table saw, drill press, nail gun, etc. Care to share your process?now I make almost all of my own wooden frames (primarily 1-1/4" wide, and foundationless), with parallel, straight-sided End Bars.
Excellent resources. Thanks.Ally, you can read more about Joseph Clemens' straight-sided frames in this thread:
The thread includes a [apparently non-functioning] link to a Google SketchUp frame plan in post #11, but here is one that works for me:
I've seen this before, but using screw spacers. The appealing thing about this setup is that it minimizes saw adjustments.I know a beekeeping couple from Poland the frames they make are an even with from top to bottom. They must manually get the bee space correct when manipulating the frames.
I like my TBH, but I have some of the usual issues: occasional broken comb, comb adhesion to the hive sides, and (worst for me) squashing bees between the frames during inspections. So I want to try frames. I also have this disease called an engineering degree that makes me question everything and over-think the prevailing obvious solutions.I can see that a straight side would be simpler to make ... but that aside, why would you not want the Hoffamn style?