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I always have two of them handy. I use the 10" hive tool (or maybe it's the 8",) for breaking hive bodies apart and heavy prying. I use the 11" Maxant type tool mainly for prying frames from the boxes. (The hook is helpful for grabbin g frame ends.)

I know other beekeepers that use both also. In fact, one of them drilled holes through the middle and put a small bolt through so they can rotate, giving hime both types in one, sort of the Swiss Army Knife of hive tools.

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I have the Maxant. Its sturdy and the hook on the end really makes getting the first frame out easy after the bees stick everything together.
 

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Maxant. But pick up a couple of the others and just leave them in your truck or smoker box. Also Glorybee has the standard hive tool for $1.95. I always order a bunch before the season from them...you can't beat the price and if you misplace/someone walks off with/the bees hide it from you/etc you don't mind cause it cost less then a big gulp.

http://www.glorybeefoods.com/gbf/Shop_ProductDetail.cfm?PC=3&PSC=22&P=13984&Product_Name=tool,%20hive%20%28std%29&Token=67.41.129.42:{ts_2010-03-01_12:01:58}-923847
 

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I love the one with the hook/lever for prying up frames. Beats having to use those stupid hand grip things.
 

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I started with the standard hive tool and after a year I tried the Maxant and have not gone back. You can use the sharp knife end to get between the frames where the propolis is and cut the propolis and pry them apart. I use the hook end every now and then.
 

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I always have two of them handy. I use the 10" hive tool (or maybe it's the 8",) for breaking hive bodies apart and heavy prying. I use the 11" Maxant type tool mainly for prying frames from the boxes. (The hook is helpful for grabbin g frame ends.)

I know other beekeepers that use both also. In fact, one of them drilled holes through the middle and put a small bolt through so they can rotate, giving hime both types in one, sort of the Swiss Army Knife of hive tools.

Wayne
I'm curious: Can't the maxant break apart supers and do the heavy prying? Why are the other tools required in addition to the maxant?
 

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I use both tools the Maxant for getting the frames lifted and the 8" for real good scraping.
 

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Maxant hook-style is my choice. I was given a new model from Kelley's with a hook end as a gift last year. It's nice, but I still prefer the Maxant tool.
 

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Don't forget the long Italian hive tool. I guess they are overcompensating for other small tools in their belts.
Except for scraping burr comb and propolis out of the rabbet and tops of frames, the standard hive tool has little advantage over the Maxant/Australian.
 

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I've had them all. My first choice is the Italian Hive tool from Brushy Mt. My next favorite is the one with a hook from Walter T. Kelley. Next would be the Maxant with the hook, but the hook is too fat...
 

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I have yet to try a Maxant but with the amount of propolis my girls have been using I may give it a try. mrspock to answer your question...if you look at a standard hive tool you notice that the bent end gives you a nice flat spot to smack with the palm of your hand while prying boxes apart, the Maxant does not.
 

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I've had them all. My first choice is the Italian Hive tool from Brushy Mt. My next favorite is the one with a hook from Walter T. Kelley. Next would be the Maxant with the hook, but the hook is too fat...
I recently bought an Italian Hive tool from Dadant's after reading this thread, but I do not understand how it makes lifting frames easier. It has a hook end that is much larger than on the Maxant tool and cannot be inserted between frames like that tool. What am I missing here?
 

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I have a few of the standard hive tools around but rarely use them. I use the "J" tool also called the Maxant tool. I can pry any hive box open with the J. The only this that's better about the standard hive tool is the ability to scrape and clean. They are much better than the J type for that kind of work.

Basically, the standard hive tool sucks when removing frames. I have ticked off too many ladies with it. Rarely do I drop a frame when removing it using the "J" type tool.
 

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Even my Maxant hive tool I found to be a bit too wide to easily fit between the end bars so I ground mine down a bit. Works like a charm.
 

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Basically, the standard hive tool sucks when removing frames. I have ticked off too many ladies with it. .
The standard hive tool works great if you know how to properly use it. Hands and fingers are for pulling frames out, the hive tool is to just get them started coming out.
 
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