Nice link! Do you sell pure breed Old World Carns? Or know of a trusted breeder?
Didn't Sue do some work awhile back on this at Ohio State University? Something about well "behaved/mannered" black bees. that produced well?It has been generally illegal to import bees into the US since the 1920s. Exceptions were made for the Russian bees and a few other small importations. Sue Cobey's New World Carniolans are not significantly different from Carniolans in their native land, I don't think. If you want to try Carniolan bees that would be the way to start. I don't sell bees currently, although I have a VSH breeder queen.
Sue Cobey initially developed the New World Carniolans stock, a dark race of honey bees, in the early 1980s by back-crossing stocks collected from throughout the United States to create a more pure strain. “Over time, it has proven very productive, winter hardy, well-tempered and more resistant to pests and disease,” she said.
“In interviewing beekeepers across the country for an American Bee Journal article on the possibilities of breeding local survivor stock, I found that many seeds planted by Sue Cobey had sprouted and flourished,” Mea McNeil said. “For example, the successful Sustainable Honeybee Program in Northern Virginia attributes its existence to encouragement from Cobey.”
Dan Purvis of Purvis Brothers Apiaries, Leoma, Tenn., credits Cobey’s drone management program “as a valuable part of his protocol, which has now maintained untreated stock for over a decade,” McNeil said.
McNeil also noted that Cobey’s “obligations to UC Davis more than fill her time, but she created a special class for a group of Marin County beekeepers on ‘Survivor Stock Queen Rearing.’”
“She does not proselytize about the possibilities of rearing survival stock, and she is realistic about the enormous difficulties that come with the endeavor,” McNeil said. “At the same time, she has successfully mentored beekeepers who choose to take it on.”
It has been generally illegal to import bees into the US since the 1920s.
These have only been available in the past few years, and they are not Carniolans, which is what we were talking about. Real Old World Carniolans would have to come from the "old world" -- specifically, Slovenia, the former Yugoslavia, Austria, Hungary or Germany.Um new flash people get bees from Australia all the time the comercial pollen guys buy them when they have dead loss in cali and have to get more bees in jan and feb. and thats importing bees.