Cory Stevens comes from Bloomfield, MO (right next to Crowley's Ridge Conservation Area, Bloomfield, MO 63825)Plainfield is a town in Sullivan County, New Hampshire, United States. At the 2010 census, the town had a total population of 2,364. The town is home to the Helen Woodruff Smith Bird Sanctuary and Annie Duncan State Forest.
Stevens Bee Company
21483 County Rd 237
Bloomfield, MO 63825
Ideally the bees for our location should be raised at our location.They sound good while under his care, but what happens when the bees are raised by someone else in a different location?
Well they aren't going to run a commercial honey operation in a suburban backyard, so there is thatthey did what they do at my place, they'd be getting about 100% losses too now and then.
I don't think so.. they didn't go chasing almond bees swarms.. they bought VSH breeders, and then did their own selection program, they graft, cory has a strong testing and II program, etcIf I did what I already do at their place, I'd be getting 50% losses too (and would be satisfied).
yep, at some point you may have to settle for small steps and pick what is better based on objective metrics... but that assumes you control your genetics , I have covered the fallacy of splitting the 50% that lives improves you stock... bare bone you got to graft, and likely its going to take more then that100% losses like we get don't allow for any improvement obviously
while I agree to a point(and market my queens to that effect)... we can't discount the success Canadian beekeepers are having overwintering NZ packages and HI queens........Ideally the bees for our location should be raised at our location.
And this is where we struggle
That's the mantra we hear all the time, but, in practice it doesn't bear out.Ideally the bees for our location should be raised at our location.
Those are the Aritaki packages in the photo you posted. The Kintail packages from NZ look a bit more traditional. They are made out of cardboard with plastic screen, feed can with gel in the center. FYI, they do well, even if you hive them in the snow. This photo is from March 8 hiving packages in the snow.packages from the other side of the pond do look different, lol
Well, clearly, "my place" is NOT only my own backyard.Well they aren't going to run a commercial honey operation in a suburban backyard, so there is that
I don't think so.. they didn't go chasing almond bees swarms.. they bought VSH breeders, and then did their own selection program,
No secret - I have 7 yards (not just the backyard)."bee trafficking" isn't the problem, mite bomb from failing hives (treated or untreated) along with high hive dencinstys can be
but your choosing to keep bees were you are keeping them
The first load is March 19th. Those that want on that load need to have drawn comb, best to have honey frames and aren't faint hearted. The loads will start coming every few days after that. It is going to happen fast.
And so it goes - the "almond bees" and all sorts of other stuff, even "Russians".If you want Russians call me right away. Limited supply. On a great note, many winter survivals this year. So far this has been one of the best over-wintered survival rates in years.
run over by what exactly?And still not much I can do with my little scale. Just completely run over.
I think that's a pretty good summary. But this thread is showing us a new tidbit out of that kind of 'program', now it includes calling folks names when blaming them for neglected bees that die off.my take is you catch swarms from the same bees your complaining about, bring them home and let them collapse from mites damanging the chances of any good stock you may have had...
And then point the finger at others for your problems.
Kinda of comes with the territory when trying to make a point about (perceived or real) negative behaviors... I have called hands off beekeepers "bee havers" and those that run OAV off label "vape heads". I won't begrudge him " traffickers"it includes calling folks names when blaming them for neglected bees that die off.
Kinda of comes with the territory when trying to make a point about (perceived or real) negative behaviors... I have called hands off beekeepers "bee havers" and those that run OAV off label "vape heads". I won't begrudge him " traffickers"
They get subjected to new viruses and die unless their dealing with same type viruses they have been handling..there's also a difference in coming through winter "surviving" and only 2 poorly covered frames, not ready for production... and coming out so strong their dripping off the frames ready to skim nuc from an put into honey production..Some may indeed come out strong, not usually.. some may survive... Wait until there huge where they can finally brood up 8-9 frames solid and see how they do... It's quite different usually...Agreed, but someone has to start somewhere. 100% losses like we get don't allow for any improvement obviously. Stress a population a little at a time and maybe some good will come of it. I am waiting for some results for Randy Oliver's bees. They sound good while under his care, but what happens when the bees are raised by someone else in a different location?
it is when I use it 😝It is not necessarily a derogatory term.
kinda/sort of maybe?Greg's bees die from PPBK. It is that simple.
Or they want to tug at emotions (marketing)It has been my experience over time, when folks resort to calling names, it's because they have no other data with which to try make a point
The strongest tool that a beekeeper has for controlling colony genetics is the grafting needle-Dee Lusby