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tanging a swarm to get it to return

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#1 ·
I had one of my strong hives start to swarm a few days ago. The bees were all in the air when I noticed them. A friend and I started to bang on a garbage can lid with a hive tool and a metal shovel with a hammer (tanging) . After about 10 min of banging the swarm came down and collected on the front of the hive where later in the day I was able to make split. Is there other beeks using this trick, and how much success are they having bringing back swarms?
 
#2 ·
I have done this twice now when i caught them leaving the hive.They never went back to the hive, but did start to cluster close by. They usually won't go very far from the hive when they swarm anyway, but by banging on something both of the hives i seen leaving didn't go but about 15 ft. from there hive to cluster. So maybe it works?
 
#5 ·
I have no idea if banging works or not, but one of my very first memories of my very conservative Amish great grandfather was him banging pans together in the bee yard. I thought he had gone off his rocker and my mother explAined he was stopping a swarm. I do not recall if they stayed close or left. He had many hives and bees were his passion. For the longest time I thought that honey only came in the comb in those little wooden things.
 
#10 ·
I should have tried it last Friday, but I didn't even think. I was busy getting a bait hive set up. After I set it up, though, it would have been worth a try. They were so far up in the Maple tree I couldn't even see the cluster, but I could see and hear the bees around it... So far I've never tried it. It always seemed like better use of my time to try to catch them...
 
#12 ·
An old uncle of mine would get up early each morning while it was still dark. He'd make a pot of coffee and then drink it while sitting on the porch. A few minutes later, the Sun would come up. He'd smile and say "yup, works every time."
 
#15 ·
Interesting. I had an old timer bee keeper swear that if I thumped the empty hive, the swarms would go single file into the box. I laughed, as it reminded me of the pied piper.
But, since that time, I have heard of more people discussing that method. So, I do not always understand the mechanics of nature or the Bees.
 
#23 ·
Drumming... If done right they boil out of the top of the hive. nothing single file about it.
The other posters seem to be saying they put a box near the swarm and then drum on it and bees march in.

I had an old timer bee keeper swear that if I thumped the empty hive, the swarms would go single file into the box.
I'm doubtful. It makes sense that it would make them come out of the box, but drumming to make a swarm go in... Nah.

Honestly, it all reaks of older beekeepers "hazing" newer people. They probably got the question a thousand times... "My hive swarmed and they're 60 feet up in a tree, what can I do?" "Oh, go grab a pot and a spoon and beat on it... sometimes it makes them come down."
Also doing nothing sometimes makes them come down, right?

I captured a swarm earlier this year, I wish I'd have had a pot to beat on when I took this video:
 
#27 ·
JWCARLSON - if you quote me to ridicule me, please quote me entirely! to finish my quote you used in part; "I laughed, as it reminded me of the pied piper."
Thus meaning I believed it as much as I believed the story of the Pied Piper. I do believe old timers like to haze new beeks.
 
#30 ·
It's not a new idea by any means:

'Aristotle, who lived over 2200 years ago, tells, in his “Story of Animals,'' Lib. IX: “Bees seem to have a liking for noise and from this observation it is claimed that, by making a noise and striking upon earthen jars, one can gather the swarm in the hive. However, whether they hear or not, we do not know whether it is pleasure or fear which induces them to gather together when there is a noise.” '--C.P. Dadant 1922 ABJ in a note in Letters to Huber

"The custom of beating kettles and caldrons has been practiced at all times and I believe everywhere, and I do not understand any better than you do what influence it could have. The bees which are hived in glass hives do not seem to take any notice of thunder. I have caused the beating of drums about my apiary and, although I used, to make a noise, all the cauldrons, The watering-pots and the bells, that has never succeeded in stopping a flying swarm for me; one succeeds a great deal better in this by throwing at them water or dirt. This prejudice has perhaps been established for the benefit of bee owners, who, knowing through this noise that a swarm is out, soon ascertain whether it has escaped from their apiary and may claim it; I have seen that reason in Oliver De Serres' or in some other agricultural book."--Francis Huber, in a letter to Miss Elisa De Portes