A couple of questions for the veteran swarm trappers on here: First a little info. I have a swarm trap that I can watch closely everyday. This trap has 9 empty foundationless frames baited with LGO and a saucer size piece of dark brood comb. It was made this year with new frames and is about 2500 cu. in. (about 41L) in size. After 12 days of serious scouting activity, I had a monster swarm come to it a couple of weeks ago. I never saw such a pile of bees in my life. A five gallon bucket would come nowhere close to holding them. Well, I believe that the box was too small and they just literally would not fit. They arrived at about 11:30 am and by dark there was still at least half of them bearded on the outside of the box. The entrance was cram packed the whole time. I went to work the next morning and could tell no difference from the night before. I came home at lunch and a few more had gone in but not a whole lot, and there was still one particularly large pile of bees on one corner that had been there the whole time. I wondered if the queen was in that bunch. I left it alone and came back after I got off work and saw bees waggle dancing on the outside. In the next few minutes they all swarmed out again and landed on a fence post. While I was thinking about how I might catch them again they left again and I was not able to follow where they went. They left behind at least 200 straggler bees and two dinner plate sized combs in the box. The stragglers are still there but most have either died or gone and they are still nasanov fanning every day. Questions: Do you think I'm right about the box size or was the issue something else such as the queen never made it inside the box? Will these stragglers keep away any new scout bees looking for a new home?