Beeflow from Argentina. Problems solved folks. Shut down the forum.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/17/tech/beeflow-mission-ahead/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/17/tech/beeflow-mission-ahead/index.html
Yeah, I was almost starting to believe itOh, a CNN report. They're so accustomed to fake news, they don't know the difference.![]()
That's because you are not in the biz of selling snake oil to Silicon Valley zillionaires for three million dollars. Come on man, get with the times, everybody is a snake oil salesman now.Thanks for the link - I'll look that up tonight. Very curious - Abscisic Acid (ABA) - is a plant hormone, and afaik didn't exist in animals, and wouldn't therefore have any function outside of the plant. Oh well ...
LJ
I can see a new and very expensive honey variety coming from bees that coked up. Night Blooming Jasmine honey.Proprietary ingredients=cocaine
Again, thanks for the link - appreciated.Two of the principles in the BeeFlow startup published this paper on Oct 1, 2019.
Effect of Abscisic Acid (ABA) Combined with Two Different Beekeeping Nutritional Strategies to Confront Overwintering: Studies on Honey Bees’ Population Dynamics and Nosemosis
Full text can be downloaded at: https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4450/10/10/329
So I duly followed-up on those references."During the past years, our group has focused on the role that abscisic acid (ABA), a natural component that is present in nectar, honey, and pollen [39,40] as well in honey bees [39,41] plays an important role in bees’ health. ABA is a sesquiterpenoid hormone that play important roles, mainly in higher plants, in many cellular processes including seed development, dormancy, germination, vegetative growth, and environmental stress responses [42]."
[41]"The results show that ct-ABA is added to the honey mainly from nectar, honeydew and pollen, and not by the bee itself. Possibly the bee might be responsible for conversion of ct- into tt-ABA, since honey contains rather more tt-ABA than does the nectar." [...] "It is proposed that the ratio of ct- to tt-ABA content of honey depends on the extent of manipulation by the bees in converting nectar into honey, which in turn reflects upon nectar water content and environmental conditions."
Pollen is therefore being ignored in the above as a bee 'food', despite the pollen-grain coat being rich in ABA - which of course is exactly where the plant requires it for subsequent seed development."The primary food of adult honey bees (Apis mellifera) is honey prepared by bees from nectar, provided by plants in order to stimulate the bee’s pollination service. Nectar consists of carbohydrates, amino acids and water, as well as other minor compounds whose proportion varies among plant species and whose biological implications in the honey bee physiology require intense research."
This last paragraph is perhaps the most intriguing of anything I've thus far read about 'ABA and bees' - BUT - if ABA is freely available in the pollen (and as claimed, in the nectar) of plants, and if indeed the honey bee has the potential to synthesise it's own ABA, then why on Earth do we need to think in terms of supplying it as a food supplement ? All we need to do as beekeepers is to leave a reasonable amount of honey behind during harvesting, and - if you really must - provide pollen patties made from real pollen and not an artificial substitute."This [the observation that newly emerged workers had 7x the level of ABA (isomer not specified) found in L5 larvae - LJ] strongly suggests an endogenous capacity of bees to generate ABA. In supporting this suggestion, honey bees possess the genetic information required for the indirect ABA biosynthesis that is found in plants ..."
So you can sell the pills....... if ABA is freely available in the pollen (and as claimed, in the nectar) of plants, and if indeed the honey bee has the potential to synthesise it's own ABA, then why on Earth do we need to think in terms of supplying it as a food supplement ? .........
LJ
That's the million dollar question and the smartest answer to it.....then why on Earth do we need to think in terms of supplying it as a food supplement ? All we need to do as beekeepers is to leave a reasonable amount of honey behind during harvesting, and - if you really must - provide pollen patties made from real pollen and not an artificial substitute.
LJ