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Wow, OT brought an old thread back to life, did a double take when I saw Jim Fischer's name. But what the heck, extracting is extracting whenever you do it. I agree that the parallel extracting design employed by Cowen, C&B and no doubt a few others are really the best concept by far. It allows the frames to draw support from being side by side which allows for rapid speed advancement and shorter run times.
 
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