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I did a cut out 3 weeks ago, and put the bees in a 8 frame medium hive with 2 frames of capped honey and 4 frames of brood, which i think got chilled because it is all being uncapped and dead bees are being taken out of the cells. The bees did make 2 queen cells on one of the frames and capped them about 12 days ago. 5 days ago I noticed that 1 queen cell had the side taken right out of it, and the other capped queen cell was almost completely taken down. I dont think the hive had a viable queen at that point because in 3 weeks I have yet to see any eggs, and the number of bees is about 1/2 what I put in there. I am also getting a lot of drift from the 3 packages I hived 5/1.

The girls arent really concerned about me going in the hive, and are putting nectar and pollen away like crazy, as well as building new comb. I am thinking of combining them with a queen right hive or ordering a new queen, but am unsure that I will have the queen before the entire hive is gone.

Any suggestions would be great.
 

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I would combine at this point, let them build up then split them later on. Thats my 2cents. Good luck
 

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Hmm...you might check for a newly mated queen. It'd take some time for her to start laying, and she would be the cause of the damaged cells. You could try adding eggs to help boost the hive. If they don't have a queen, or they have a failing queen, they'll start making a new one. If you think the hive is too weak to wait for a quenn, then combine it.
 

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I might have a new queen, I am unsure. The weather is supposed to be pretty crappy for the next few days, so I hope that either she is there and already went on mating flights, or am completely queenless so i can combine. There are tons of drones around so if she is there, she should have gotten mated well.
 

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(yes I am repeating myself...)

There are few solutions as universal in their application and their
success than adding a frame of open brood every week for three weeks.
It is a virtual panecea for any queen issues. It gives the bees the
pheromones to suppress laying workers. It gives them more workers
coming in during a period where there is no laying queen. It does not
interfere if there is a virgin queen. It gives them the resources to
rear a queen. It is virtually foolproof and does not require finding a
queen or seeing eggs. If you have any issue with queenrightness, no
brood, worried that there is no queen, this is the simple solution that
reuires no worrying, no waiting, no hoping. You just give them what
they need to resolve the situation. If you have any doubts about the
queenrightness of a hive, give them some open brood and sleep well.
Repeat once a week for two more weeks if you still aren't sure. By then
things will be fine.
 

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(yes I am repeating myself...)


"It is virtually foolproof and does not require finding a
queen or seeing eggs".
I am confused:scratch: Are you suggesting the bees will make a queen with open brood only (NO eggs):s
Another ? When a NUC is up and running (laying queen, etc) when is it approite to transfer into a 9 or 10 frame Box:scratch:
 

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If you put in frames with open brood there will be some lavae at the right stage for the bees to make a queen and there are bound to be eggs.
It's not very often you wouldn't get some eggs in a frame of open brood, they only need one. :)
 
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