Does that kill the mites?Please accept my humble suggestion.
One could use a small hot room.
Does that kill the mites?Please accept my humble suggestion.
One could use a small hot room.
So ou hive the bees...queen in cage. Pull the cage for 10 min or so while you Vapourizer the package bees and then replace the queen cage for release?In europe they do OAD prior to hiving the bees from new packages. But do so prior to adding the queen to the boxes. The OAV doesn't really bother the bees once in the hive. I did it to 15 packages last season without any problems at all. They built up better and stronger without the mites.
i just sawthat video on youtube jan 13 2021 i am a new beekeeper in central florida. i receive my package in late march. i asked the usda insp and she said ova is good if temps below 90 but ask producer who told me they treat in the fall. after reading your posts. ...thxs... i will ova while bees in package while inverted in hive like the youtube from triad bee supply suggested using an empty brood box on top to cover package with shim and lid. any advice is appreciatedThere used to be a German video about the rotary system of beekeeping where packages are sprayed with a solution of perezene (a fluvalinate) while still in the package box and left on check paper overnight before being united with their daughter colonies. The papers were then mite counted for queen rearing record purposes(I think).
Unfortunately the videos don't seem to be available anymore, the beekeeper was an admirably calm and efficient lady much to be admired.
Obviously, with treating a package, there are very little comb contamination issues.
Welcome to beekeeping and the site. I would ask your supplier if they treat as many do these days. If not, I think Most would advise that you hive the package and then treat after they have settled in, but before they have capped any cells. As you may know, oxalic acid is an effective treatment for phoretic mites. The treatment is unable to penetrate the wax cappings so that's why it is best to give them a shot before cells are capped. If you plan on treating exclusively with a OAV, it needs to be done in a series so you are eventually treating all (most really) of the bees, and killing mites before a cell is capped. There are lots of discussions on this and timing has changed, so look for posts within the past 2 years. Best of luck and welcome aboard. Ji just sawthat video on youtube jan 13 2021 i am a new beekeeper in central florida. i receive my package in late march. i asked the usda insp and she said ova is good if temps below 90 but ask producer who told me they treat in the fall. after reading your posts. ...thxs... i will ova while bees in package while inverted in hive like the youtube from triad bee supply suggested using an empty brood box on top to cover package with shim and lid. any advice is appreciated
Bearcavesaga, The consensus among experienced beekeepers is to NOT treat a package until after they have drawn some comb and the queen is laying, but BEFORE any of the brood is capped, 9 days after the first egg is laid. Packages are not anchored well since there is no comb or brood in the hive and the queen is not laying. I would hate for you to treat them too soon, only to have the entire colony abscond shortly thereafter. There is no upper temperature limitation on OAV, lower temp is around 40-45 degrees F. Any colder and the bees are in too tight of a cluster for the treatment to do much good.
OAV is OA applied as a vaporized dust using a heating device that sublimates the OA. OAD is a dribble or spray application of OA dissolved in a light sugar syrup.
One reason I have gathered is the bees will turn on the queen, since her pheromones aren't full force yet.Bearcavesaga, The consensus among experienced beekeepers is to NOT treat a package until after they have drawn some comb and the queen is laying, but BEFORE any of the brood is capped, 9 days after the first egg is laid. Packages are not anchored well since there is no comb or brood in the hive and the queen is not laying. I would hate for you to treat them too soon, only to have the entire colony abscond shortly thereafter. There is no upper temperature limitation on OAV, lower temp is around 40-45 degrees F. Any colder and the bees are in too tight of a cluster for the treatment to do much good.
OAV is OA applied as a vaporized dust using a heating device that sublimates the OA. OAD is a dribble or spray application of OA dissolved in a light sugar syrup.