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#1 ·
Do I have to be careful when mixing oxalic acid for dribble treatment? Will it vaporize if I mix it in heated water to make it dissolve?
 
#6 ·
Here is how I do:

I have a little jar with the lid (something like after jelly or so) and for 2 hives I make 100ml of solution (I put the mark of 50ml and 100ml on the jar).

1. I put 50ml of lukewarm water in the jar.
2. add 3.5gr (aproximately 1/2 teaspoon) of oxalic acid.
3. put the lid on and mix it up (in a few sec it dissolved).
4. add 1/4 cup of sugar.
5. put the lid on and continue mixing till it's dissolved
6. top the solution till 100ml if necessary

Then I fill-up my 2 syringes with 50ml and go ahead to shoot.

Rusty Hills Farm, do you know the best temperature for hot water? If water is too hot, will oxalic acid work well ?
 
#10 ·
Agree with Rusty!!!

I made marks for 50ml and 100ml on my jar and I made them using a 50 ml syringe to make sure where the 50 and 100 ml marks are.
I measure 1/4 cup sugar with cup measurer and 3.5 gr oxalic acid using a jewelers scale, so I go between 3.47-3.53 gr for the solution.

Sugar is not that vital - the oxalic acid weight and final volume are important.

You can see the results of my solution here:

Hive #1 : http://pictures.manasyan.com/2016-11-14/IMG_1503.JPG
Hive #2 : http://pictures.manasyan.com/2016-11-14/IMG_1506.JPG
 
#13 ·
I mean no disrespect, but this sounds entirely wrong.
First of all we can assume that one ml of WATER is equal to 1 g.
Sugar syrup is much heavier than water.
Secondly, 100 grams of water + 3.5 grams of Oxalic combined results in a 3.38% concentration, not 3.5%.
Not wanting to nit-pick but we have to get this stuff right.
 
#14 · (Edited)
Here is Randy Oliver's suggestion if you want small quantities, and don't have a scale ...

If you absolutely don’t want to use a postal scale, or a cheap digital scale (plenty on the web for under $10), then an approximate dilution would be 3 tsp oxalic crystals to 5 fl. oz each of water and granulated sugar. This will give you a bit over a cup of treated syrup, or enough to treat about 4 colonies (or 3 really strong ones). Don’t try to mix any less, just discard the excess!

http://scientificbeekeeping.com/oxalic-acid-treatment-table/
Note that a cup of water is 8 ounces, so the suggested 5 oz of water is more than 1/2 a cup. :)
5 oz of water = 1/2 cup + 2 TABLEspoons ...
. . and 3 tsp is 3 TEAspoons :p

Sugar is not exactly the same weight as water, but for this purpose Randy treats measuring sugar the same as water, so the complete mixture is .. .
5 oz of water = 1/2 cup + 2 TABLEspoons water +
5 oz of sugar = 1/2 cup + 2 TABLEspoons sugar +
3 TEAspoons of dry oxalic acid

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