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Ok so how long should a nuc that you where buying have been build I would think it should be atleast 3 weeks other wise you would but be buying a package with brood frames right .
I'm pretty sure that the person that I'm getting my 12 nucs from is just building the nucs this week . As he says he's getting queens this week . He's been saying the nucs will be ready mid to late of this month . But know saing the 3rd week witch is next week most likely only with a queen for a week .

I'm getting real worried I should have have canceled these 12 and just bought all like the 6 I got 2 weeks ago . As these 12 may be in the same not settled to gather problem as I just learned with my 6 . Which are doing great after I learned what I have .

So how long should a nuc really be built before its sold ?

And I'm going to have to drive these 12 4-5 hours one way is it better to haul them in the a/c . If I do that it's going to make it more of a problem of inspect them before I take them . Which I really want to do since I'm worried about the deal the more the guy talks . Should I just haul them in the bed of the truck sure it will be cardboard nucs . And if so when should I be there to haul them back should I be there a little before dark so its dark hauling them back to be a little cooler .

He's Supposed to be a stand up guy and most likely is even on here . Just trying to make sure he's on the up and up on what he's doing and I don't run in to a ton more of the same problems I just had . And learn all I can at what I'm doing .
 

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is he keeping the new quenns and making nucs from his over wintered queens ?
 

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Man up and tell us who he is.
Doing going to do it because . It's not a bash him thread . He maybe doing everything just right . Just want to know for my self so I can ask the right question . To make sure . It's all on the up and up .

So how long should a nuc really be built . 1 week 2 weeks 3 weeks . From what I have learns with the 6 I have 3 weeks or more would be better right ??
 

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I estimate 4 weeks from placing a mated queen into a 5 frame box until she has it drawn and filled. I am just starting out so may have a lot to find out yet. People are starting to find out that I am making up nucs and they are callign to see if I have any right now. I say no and it will be a month at least. probably more. they start the idea like just drop 5 fraems of bees in a box and add a mated queen. I say I could do that but it would wipe out my apiary first of all and second of all I don't make nucs like that. They do not get on my waiting list so suspect they went looking for someone that does make up quick boxes with a mated queen. I figure I win in the long run I will not have a trail of unhappy customers saying what cheap nucs I make up. Seen that to many times before. they want quick and cheap until they have quick and cheap. then suddenly they remember how they wanted top quality.
 

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I sell a few nucs every year. When i make them up it is two frames of bees and brood with a couple shakes of bees. Then one frame of honey and two empty frames. I add a queen cell or mated queen. I feed if needed. When the queen is laying a good pattern and the emptys are filled or mostly filled out they are ready.
You have to carefull not to let them get to stong or they will swarm.
 

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How many times have you communicated with this Nuc supplier since you put in your order?
A couple and more text messages and reading his post on Facebook . I mean a 100% newbie mite not put everything I have hear and read to gather . But I believe one other has also because they basically asked if he even had bees . Because I believe that person thinks he was just buying say packages and letting them build a little and selling . Basically buying and selling bees and not raising . I believe he's shaking off his hive adding brood and honey and pollen with a new queen . Which I then think he's not keeping built long and selling .
 

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This process usually takes about 30 days.
 

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This process usually takes about 30 days.
Ya that's what I have learn so far my self from my 6 shook hives / 2 frame nucs . They where a frame of brood and 1 frame of honey and bees shook in my hives from the person I got them from . And in my not knowing I put them to close and they driffed to one hive but the seller had me bring them back and shook me more bees and then told me to place them atleast 20 feet apart witch I have them way futher for piece of mind . And am having no problems now . And in 3 weeks I could place them back to gather as there would be. Established by then .

So from every thing I have heard or read from the guy that I'm getting the 12 nucs from they mite not have been to gather long enough to get Established . Which they should be I would believe that's the reason I bought them so I would have Established bees . With is all I could find at the time to get in on .

But I found the guy I got the 6 from because I knew I get them then and not have to keep waiting for my nucs . Which I'm glad I did because I have learned a ton since having them . Which should have me more Prepared for my nucs . Which in Theory shouldn't be any problems if they was done right .
Which is what I'm trying to learn more about in this thread so I can be Prepared when I get them . Which I'm still going to take I'm sure since I done got to much money down to lose . And done missed anyone else to buy from . But if I learn if the nucs are not done a 100% right or together long enought to be Established I will know what I need to be doing since I have learnt a ton already like said with the 6 .
 

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So any thoughts on the haul home with these nucs ?
Like said will be 4-5 hours home . And I'm sure I'm not going to take them tell closer to the end of the month even if he calls to tell me there ready next week . So maybe they will be more established . Since he said when we talked he would work the pick up date to fit my needs even if it was a week or so.

I'm about half tempted to take my hives and install them at his place in them so they would have more room and screened bottoms and could even do screened tops if needed then . Anyone see problems with that if he was to let me do that.
Then I know I would get to inspect them and they should be find in the bed of the truck I would think.

My mentor is really worried about the haul home with 12 nucs in cardboard boxes.
 

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So any thoughts on the haul home with these nucs ?
Like said will be 4-5 hours home . And I'm sure I'm not going to take them tell closer to the end of the month even if he calls to tell me there ready next week . So maybe they will be more established . Since he said when we talked he would work the pick up date to fit my needs even if it was a week or so.

I'm about half tempted to take my hives and install them at his place in them so they would have more room and screened bottoms and could even do screened tops if needed then . Anyone see problems with that if he was to let me do that.
Then I know I would get to inspect them and they should be find in the bed of the truck I would think.

My mentor is really worried about the haul home with 12 nucs in cardboard boxes.
This was my first experience with cardboard nuc boxes, which I think may be Mann Lakes. The nuc supplier wanted us to pick them up at sunset and drive home in the dark. The boxes close up with a plastic plug that leaves near zero ventilation. We wound up bringing 1/8" hardware cloth and duct tape to close the entrance but allow ventilation. Driving that long in the daytime I'd worry about temperature. Kept out of the sun with air conditioning or plenty of cool outside air, and some provision to vent the boxes, probably OK. Otherwise, cooked bees.
 

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This was my first experience with cardboard nuc boxes, which I think may be Mann Lakes. The nuc supplier wanted us to pick them up at sunset and drive home in the dark. The boxes close up with a plastic plug that leaves near zero ventilation. We wound up bringing 1/8" hardware cloth and duct tape to close the entrance but allow ventilation. Driving that long in the daytime I'd worry about temperature. Kept out of the sun with air conditioning or plenty of cool outside air, and some provision to vent the boxes, probably OK. Otherwise, cooked bees.
Did you open yours up and let them out when you got home . Or wait the next morning
 

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We removed the screens as soon as we got home (about 10 PM) and placed the nucs on the stand where the hives were going to be. A few bees came to the entrance and looked out but went back inside.

We waited until the next morning to do anything else, but then it was cold and threatening rain. The bees were not coming out. Finally got sunny and warmed up in mid morning. The installation went smoothly. Last we looked they were taking turns coming outside for orientation flights, and admiring their new digs.
 

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If your nuc has plenty of nurse bees, foragers, brood, stores, comb, and a healthy laying queen - what else matters?
 

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If the nuc has a healthy laying queen I can't see why it would be any more subject to drifting than any other hive. You may be worrying prematurely.

Haraga -David, why you gotta talk sensible like that?

I really want to know. I sold nucs for the first time this year, and it went well enough that I'm interested in what concerns customers might have - and why. Learned a good bit.
 
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