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There was an offshoot discussion in which I think turned the wrong way before it ever got started about Master Beekeeper Certifications.
Most industry certifications, be it in computers or automotive or just about any other field in which similar certifications are issued, are usually issued and obtained for a limited set of reasons;
1) To verify that a 'trusted' certifying group recognizes this certificate bearers abilities to be in line with recognized industry standards and abilities. (directly relate-able to a job or business)
2) To indicate said certificate bearer is in line with the thinking and philosophy of a particular group, with social reknown (educational and social use)
3) A discussion piece. (a topic starter or like a vanity plate)
What does one "Do" with a Master Beekeeper Certification?
One can use it to establish some level of credibility and experience in order to obtain employment in a bee related field.
One can use it to convey 'trustworthiness' and knowledge to establish ones own business reputation
One can use it to establish they have a recognized educational and experience background to provide instruction to others.
If you have said certificate, how do you use it? in your job? to help others? a bragging point?
Certificates such as a Master Beekeeper Certificate are often largely scrutinized and viewed with skepticism. Technology in every industry changes over time. "Acceptable" methodologies change over time. Some fields are so vast in terms of approach and type (such as the how many types of honey bees there are, so many different methods of breeding, etc....) That certifications are difficult to cover the entire spectrum and there fore on specialties.
It's difficult for many to accept that without continued study, testing and ongoing demonstration, any 'certification' is truly viable as the information can become easily outdated and practices/techniques must be kept up with.
In the interest of keeping this an objective discussion, please keep derogatory comments out.
If you support such certification, please indicate YOUR support and the reasons FOR YOU only.
If you are skeptical of such certification, please indicate YOUR skepticism and the reasons FOR YOU only.
If you, like many, find yourself somewhere in the middle, please describe your position ONLY as it relates to YOU.
To start off, I will say that as someone who has had to obtain certification in the computer tech and truck driving fields, I know the requirements and obstacles involved in preparing for and obtaining said certifications. I have had to use those certifications in a business/work purpose and even though I am in a position to have need of certifications, I am skeptical about those holding them as I have had plenty of first hand experience of working with others who have the same certifications yet are not able to demonstrate the same capacity to perform as others in similar position.
In the end, to me, holding the certification is not proof of ability, it always falls back to evaluating the individual based on what they demonstrate, not they paper they have.
Big Bear
Most industry certifications, be it in computers or automotive or just about any other field in which similar certifications are issued, are usually issued and obtained for a limited set of reasons;
1) To verify that a 'trusted' certifying group recognizes this certificate bearers abilities to be in line with recognized industry standards and abilities. (directly relate-able to a job or business)
2) To indicate said certificate bearer is in line with the thinking and philosophy of a particular group, with social reknown (educational and social use)
3) A discussion piece. (a topic starter or like a vanity plate)
What does one "Do" with a Master Beekeeper Certification?
One can use it to establish some level of credibility and experience in order to obtain employment in a bee related field.
One can use it to convey 'trustworthiness' and knowledge to establish ones own business reputation
One can use it to establish they have a recognized educational and experience background to provide instruction to others.
If you have said certificate, how do you use it? in your job? to help others? a bragging point?
Certificates such as a Master Beekeeper Certificate are often largely scrutinized and viewed with skepticism. Technology in every industry changes over time. "Acceptable" methodologies change over time. Some fields are so vast in terms of approach and type (such as the how many types of honey bees there are, so many different methods of breeding, etc....) That certifications are difficult to cover the entire spectrum and there fore on specialties.
It's difficult for many to accept that without continued study, testing and ongoing demonstration, any 'certification' is truly viable as the information can become easily outdated and practices/techniques must be kept up with.
In the interest of keeping this an objective discussion, please keep derogatory comments out.
If you support such certification, please indicate YOUR support and the reasons FOR YOU only.
If you are skeptical of such certification, please indicate YOUR skepticism and the reasons FOR YOU only.
If you, like many, find yourself somewhere in the middle, please describe your position ONLY as it relates to YOU.
To start off, I will say that as someone who has had to obtain certification in the computer tech and truck driving fields, I know the requirements and obstacles involved in preparing for and obtaining said certifications. I have had to use those certifications in a business/work purpose and even though I am in a position to have need of certifications, I am skeptical about those holding them as I have had plenty of first hand experience of working with others who have the same certifications yet are not able to demonstrate the same capacity to perform as others in similar position.
In the end, to me, holding the certification is not proof of ability, it always falls back to evaluating the individual based on what they demonstrate, not they paper they have.
Big Bear
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