What have you found out?
is it possible to point me to the sources of this information?
thanks, clyderoad
is it possible to point me to the sources of this information?
thanks, clyderoad
I'm not in your area but I have some. If interested PM me.After finding out that non temperate region propolis is useless, especially medicinally, I need some raw TF propolis from north of Georgia. A big glob. It can have legs, parts, etc in it. Doesn't matter. Please let me know if you can help me out and what it will cost me.![]()
Care to name which "claim" of mine you want me to "back up"?Dominic:
I tend to be rather skeptical of claims by those who are rather skeptical of other peoples comments without letting them explain or cite their sources of information.
for the heck of it, do you care to back up your claims?
That's basically my whole message. Propolis is transported on the bee's pollen baskets: do you need me to cite a study stating that the pollen basket cannot be used simultaneously to transport propolis and pollen? Much of that passage also includes a series of deductions. Should I cite Darwin in order to be able to suggest that natural evolution will tend to favor behaviors that increase fitness over behaviors that reduce it?these:
Poplar is the dominant source in temperate climates, I believe. It's therefore reasonable to assume that the properties of propolis gathered elsewhere, from different "ingredients" (sources), may differ from those of temperate-climate propolis. However, I do not deem it reasonable to assume that it is "useless". Bees collect propolis for a reason, and that isn't to mend our ills. If that propolis was useless, then they simply wouldn't collect it. Why bother? A bee collecting propolis is a bee not collecting nectar or pollen. Natural and artificial selection would both have driven bees from non-temperate climates to stop collecting propolis if it had no value.
And in the conclusion:The use of propolis in folk medicine contin-
ues to increase (Castaldo and Capasso, 2002)
as a constituent of “bio-cosmetics”, “health
foods” and for numerous other purposes
(Wollenweber and Buchmann, 1997; Banskota
et al., 2001). However, chemical studies have
revealed chemical variability among propolis
samples and the existence of different chemi-
cal types of propolis according to plant source
(Bankova, 2005b). In temperate zones all over
the world, poplarbud exudates(mainly of
Pop-ulus ***** L.) have been shown to be the
main source of bee collected resin. Undoubt-
edly, poplar type propolis is the most stud-
ied and the best known type of propolis, both
from chemical and pharmacological point of
view. The chemical constituents responsible
for its beneficial biological activities, and es-
pecially for its antimicrobial and antioxidant
properties, are well documented: flavonoids
(including flavones, flavonols, flavanones and
dihydroflavonols) and other phenolics (mainly
substituted cinnamic acids and their esters)
(Banskota et al., 2001).
This article refers to other articles where you can read more about the brazilian green propolis and the red propolis. I do not have access to those right now, however.The results obtained in this study show that the
chosen parameters are meaningful for the evalua-
tion of poplar propolis quality. It is important to re-
member however, that other types of propolis have
different chemical compositions (Bankova, 2005a).
For this reason, all the above discussed conclusions
and criteria are valid for poplar propolis only, and
should by no means be applied to other propolis
types, such as Brazilian green propolis or Cuban
and Brazilian red propolis.
Wow!!!! A markup from $9 to $100 is a great profit for someone.I wholesale mine, grade 'A' gets about $9 a pound, grade (lowest) gets $4 I think was the quote to me. If you add up the price that they sell it for on the net it comes to about $100/lb but those people are selling it to the general public and that's some liability I don't necessarily want.