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Some input on running them and is there a calmer black bee out there, if so please help me find them. I would like to get a few queens or nucs thank you.
 

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I am also interested in dark bees. I currently have a couple of hives with a majority of very dark bees. I believe that these hives have a lot of Carniolan genetics. They are relatively calm bees (the most gentle ones in my small apiary). I am interested in learning about other darker genetics and maybe incorporating them into my apiary, so I am also interested in any leads folks post in response to your request. Of course, brace yourself for the barrage of posts about intensely aggressive wild, black bees that you would have to be nuts to keep in your apiary. I am not saying that these insane black bees don't exist, but I am starting to wonder. My hottest hive was a regular "plain Jane" light colored colony--not a dark bee among them. Granted they would only follow me about 200 feet, and they did not bother anyone unless I started moving frames around. So they were not as hot as the wild, black bees are supposed to be.
 

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Most black bees I came about and kept were calm bees. I reckon once they hybrids they can turn stingy. It is difficult to get pure breeds of black bees nowadays, since the importation of all sorts of bees mixed and muddled up the gene pool of black bees. Someone who investigates this, has found only few pure black bees left in Europe. Some Irish black bees, some from Sweden and Poland seem to be pure enough to call them black bees.

For some wing measures of the Swedish Bygdeträsk bee: http://www.nordbiene.de/dunkle-bien...mermalsuntersuchung-bygdetraesk-schweden.html
http://www.nordbi.org/bi-filer/vingindex/v-index6.gif

Google translated website:
http://translate.google.de/translat...ne-dunkle-biene-apis-mellifera-mellifera.html

This site lists all the international dark bee breeders: http://www.nordbiene.de/koeniginnen-dunkle-biene/bezugsquellen-dunkle-biene.html
 

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There are several strains of darker bees. Caucasians tend to be a bit more silver gray. Carniolans are often all black or black with gray stripes. Apis mellifera mellifera (German Black bees) are often solid black but sometimes have the gray stripes. Temperment varies a lot in the feral ones.
 

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Thanks guys but I have read all over and just hoping that some one would say, yes I sell black bees
 

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>just hoping that some one would say, yes I sell black bees

I have in the past and will again in the future, but I don't know how much time I'll have to spend on the bees. I'm still trying to finish getting moved, fix the old house to sell, fix the new house etc... and work full time.
 
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