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Is it too late to split in Kentucky

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#1 ·
I screwed up and put a queen excluder in late and trapped the queen in the honey supers. While inspecting I noticed the hive was very full of bees. So I am thinking it may be a good time to write off a honey harvest and split the hive. This will be my first split so I am wondering if it is too late in the year. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.
 
#3 ·
Since i have two deeps and two supers pretty much loaded with bees I thought I would split it evenly 1 deep 1 super each. But I am not sure about how or when to incorporate an additional deep in each hive, this year or wait till spring. I dont want to give too much space too soon for fear of wax moths? But maybe now is the time?
 
#6 ·
Ok I am feeling more comfortable but have another question regarding drones. I plan on one of the splits making thier own queen which can take about 30 days for her to hatch if I remember correctly and Drones need to be flying for her to get impregnated. When do the drones go away? or in other words when would it be too late for this? I know there is alot of variables but I am somewhat assuming by splitting a large well stocked hive (2 deeps 2 medium supers) they should have sufficient stores. Correct me if i am wrong.

Thanks
 
#7 ·
Bee Math has a queen emerging 16 days after the egg was laid or 8 days after being capped. I think what you're referring to is that it takes about a month to get from egg to *laying* queen (hatched, hardened, mated & settled).

The drone population should be peaking just about now, so there should be plenty of eligible mates in any nearby DCAs. Around here, the workers generally don't kick them out until September/October.

I have a couple of mating nucs where the queens never returned, so I gave them each a frame of mixed brood yesterday so they can start all over again. Last year, I had an emergency queen develop & mate near the middle of September. She did just fine.

Still plenty of time yet. Just throw the feed to them when you're growing a queen.
 
#8 ·
Usually around 28 days from egg to laying eggs so you have plenty of time.We grafted some queens last year right up to the beginning of Sept. which is probably too late here in Kentucky but I planned on wintering them indoors so they didnt need as many bees.It worked out reasonably well,about 10 out of 14 survived.