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how to migrate to same size boxes with British national hive

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hello
I'm not a frequent poster but I love the wealth of information on this forum!
I'm in my second year of beekeeping in North Wales, UK - my two hives overwintered well and are building up very well now :)

I started out straight with foundationless frames which worked very well. But now faced with my first proper manipulations to manage swarming, I realise that I really want same size boxes everywhere. It really would make everything so much more easier! (unfortunately had to go through the first year to realise that...)

I don't really want to move away from British National hive parts so I'm in a conundrum about what size boxes to introduce as my 'one-size' for the future.
It seems the most commonly used same size boxes are Langstroth mediums - a bit smaller than standard BN deeps, and bit bigger than BN supers - any advice on which of the two I should go for?
And then, how do I migrate my current 12x14 brood boxes to whatever size I decide to go for? (I don't really want to get involved in cutting down frames full of bees...)

I was considering borrowing from Warre and nadiring the hives with new 'one size' boxes this season, hoping to be able to 'harvest off' the large boxes from the top when filled with honey (if we get a good year). Does this make sense? (I know I can't extract 14x12 frames, but I can live with crush & strain for this one time, I think).

Grateful for any ideas.

Katerina
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Go for whatever size box you can easily lift when it's full of honey. That will not be the deeper ones... Usually something in the range of 50 pounds is manageable.
Go for whatever size box you can easily lift when it's full of honey. That will not be the deeper ones... Usually something in the range of 50 pounds is manageable.
Thanks Michael - the BS supers are quite a bit shallower (140mm) than the LS deeps you recommend in your book.
I'm concerned that it will become a nightmare inspecting a possibly 3-box high brood nest and/or that the bees will not like the 3tier broodnest.
Wondering if anyone here has experience using BS supers across their hives?
(I realise I maybe should have posted this in the 'equipment' section?)

Katerina
>the BS supers are quite a bit shallower (140mm) than the LS deeps you recommend in your book.

Not sure what an LS deep is, but if it's a Langstroth deep, I did not recommend them... I use all eight frame mediums (6 5/8" deep boxes that are 13 3/4" wide and take eight standard frames).
Sorry, you are right of course, that was my slip here, still getting my tongue twisted on all the different hive parts.
I meant the Langstroth mediums - so the 6 5/8" would be 170mm compared to the 140mm of a British super.
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