ErnieB: The honey from my hives is consumed by my children and grandchildren. When I learned that the bees move honey from the brood chamber to the honey supers, that was the end of me using Fumigillin.
I'd rather have the bees die than poison my grandchildren!
Is Fumagillin a poison? Really? I like philosophy also. Perhaps, a little hormesis theory here.This is a philosophical discussion. What is your philosophy on raising bees? Mine is that the hive is a complex superorganism made up of, not only bees, but microbes of many types. Either of the two you listed will disrupt those microbes, so I would use neither.
If you philosophy is that chemicals are good and microbes are bad, then you probably should.
Packages are typically produced in warm regions of the United States in spring and shipped throughout the United States to replace colonies that perished during winter. Although the package bee industry is effective in replacing colonies lost in winter, packages also can be an effective means of dispersing diseases, parasites, and undesirable stock to beekeepers throughout the United States. To evaluate the quality of packages, we examined 48 packages representing six lines of bees purchased in the spring 2006.
We found significant differences in both the mean Varroa mite per bee ratios (0.004 Ð 0.054) and the average percentage of drones (0.04 Ð5.1%) in packages from different producers. We found significant differences in the number of Nosema-infected packages (0.0Ð75.0%) among the six lines. No packages contained detectable levels of A. woodi. Considering the observed variability among honey bee packages, beekeepers should be aware of the potential for pest and disease infestations and high drone levels in packages.
What’s in That Package? An Evaluation of Quality of Package Honey Bee (Hymenoptera: Apidae) Shipments in the United States
JAMES P. STRANGE, et al. in: J. Econ. Entomol. 101(3): 668-673 (2008)
I don't think that's the reason it's forbidden by the EU. They forbid any antibiotics on bees, whether harmful to humans or not. Honestly, the amount of antibiotic in honey is so small as to be almost indetectable. But plenty of natural pollens and nectars are toxic, too.It causes birth defects in mammals. I'd call that poison. Most of the rest of the world has outlawed it's use at all and outlawed it's use in bees.
Examples of natural toxicants in poisonous plants interfering with reproduction are numerous. Abortion in livestock from locoweeds, ponderosa pine needles, broom snakeweeds, fescue, and others are reported in studies. Selenium and seleniferous forage inhibit estrus in cattle and swine. Emaciation and temporary illness from sneezeweeds, bitterweed, locoweed, larkspur, lupines, and others may interfere with mating. Embryonic loss and birth defects from Veratrum, lupines, locoweeds, poison hemlock, and so on, may occur.
The effect of natural toxins on reproduction in livestock
L. F. James, K. E. Panter, D. B. Nielsen and R. J. Molyneux J Anim Sci 1992. 70:1573-1579.
Truly this is an exaggeration. Most of the world has very lax regulations on the use of antibiotics on livestock. The European Union, Australia and New Zealand are especially strict. That leaves Asia, The Americas, Africa and a lot of Europe where laws are lax or nonexistent. African honey is probably the purest because many African nations are too poor to use modern chemicals, and much of the honey is harvested from wild bees.Most of the rest of the world has outlawed it's use at all and outlawed it's use in bees.
6 patients cleared their microsporidial infection during the first course of oral fumagillin. None of these patients relapsed during follow-up. Parasitic clearance was associated with clinical benefit. No significant side effects were noted during the trial, except for mild reversible thrombocytopenia. CONCLUSIONS: In AIDS patients with E. bieneusi infection, oral fumagillin has parasitological and clinical efficacy. - Efficacy and safety of intermittent oral fumagillin for the treatment of Enterocytozoon bieneusi infections in patients with AIDS
No, I don't.With all due respect to Mr. Bush, and others, I would disagree about his philosophy. Do you not go to the doctor, when you get sick?
Yes like raising your own food.NOW, with chemical use and food products, there are certain precautions you have to take.
Yes, if I have an animal that is sick, I provide a dry clean environment, little TLC, maybe some extra hay and grain. But if they can't make it without all the chemicals, Weeelll, they just ainta going to make it.Every now and then, all living things can use a little help.
There are injectables that we give cows and horses, that prevent the animals from being safe for slaughter, for several months, but down the road, they are fine.Not for me. I wonder if the reason for all the fat children isn't because of all the hormones they pump into the livestock, but I don't have to worry about that, I raise most all of what we consume, and none of my children are fat.
Yes, and the above is my opinion, but also how I have chosen to spend my days in this age. Makes you wonder how from eternity passed up until about 100 years ago, Mankind [the Creation of God] existed.Again, this is my opinion, and all cases are individual, and should be treated as such.