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#22 ·
I don't know anything about ibuprofen. But I doubt that the active ingredient in the tablet is the ONLY component of the tablet. At a minimum there is likely some kind of binder to make the pills stay pills.

Oh look ....
MOTRIN (ibuprofen) tablets, a nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID), is available in 400 mg, 600 mg, and 800 mg tablets for oral administration. Inactive ingredients: carnauba wax, colloidal silicon dioxide, croscarmellose sodium, hypromellose, lactose, magnesium stearate, microcrystalline cellulose, propylene glycol, titanium dioxide.
http://www.rxlist.com/ibuprofen-drug.htm
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Look at all that good stuff! :eek: :rolleyes:

Just buy 100% powdered lecithin and bee happy. :D
http://www.myspicesage.com/lecithin-powder-p-543.html
(Just an example, I am not endorsing that vendor.)





(propylene glycol is used to de-ice airplanes and make anti-freeze! ) :eek:
OK, I haven't looked up the ingredients of the aspirin that I use. Now I'm afraid to. :lookout:
 
#23 ·
Or ditch the lecithin entirely and emulsify mechanically in a blender. I add my oils to plain water and blend on high for about 5 mins. The oils stay blended. Then I mix in more water for a concentrate that I add to my syrup mix. It takes me most of a season to use up the concentrate but it is still blended when I pour the last of it into my syrup.

This is a trick I picked up on a FatBeeMan video and it works great!

HTH

Rusty
 
#24 ·
Heard a lecture yesterday which stated that some essential oils are harmful to bees. One which is sometimes found used by beekeepers is actually a fluvalinate compound. Apistan's active ingredient.

Know what you are using and how it effects bees.
 
#26 · (Edited)
Something I heard said from the podium at our State meeting. I'll have to check w/ the speaker for more information.

On one of the power points displayed in one of Dr. Jerry Bromenshenks talk it stated "Essential oils may be toxic to bees.", "Essential oils may not reduce viral loads.", "Some pollen patties may harm bees.", and "Buyers beware of treatments- Some don't work, others have down sides."
 
#27 ·
Mixing with a blender actually does work great, it's easy and the mixture stays blended all season long. However, I would recommend using an old or cheap blender, as the one I used from our kitchen could not be scrubbed hard enough with hot soapy water to get the smell out of some of the parts, gaskets and seals etc. I'm sure some of them would not be effected by it but....We now have a very nice new blender in the kitchen, and I have a dedicated blender in the shop for bee stuff.
 
#29 ·
You'd have to go to Bromenshenk for that. He didn't give that to me or our association. And those were just the points. Dr. Bromenshenk had a lot more to say which I could not write down. I have never been really good about notes beyond the highlights. I actually usually don't take notes. But it was right there on the screen long enough for me to. And I thought it interesting enough to write down.

Dr. Jerry Bromenshenk is on facebook. You may be able to e-mail him through umt.edu/bee. The University of Montana's School of Extended and Lifelong Learning website.
 
#30 ·
sqkcrk said:
You'd have to go to Bromenshenk for that. He didn't give that to me or our association. And those were just the points. Dr. Bromenshenk had a lot more to say which I could not write down. I have never been really good about notes beyond the highlights. I actually usually don't take notes. But it was right there on the screen long enough for me to. And I thought it interesting enough to write down.

Dr. Jerry Bromenshenk is on facebook. You may be able to e-mail him through umt.edu/bee. The University of Montana's School of Extended and Lifelong Learning website.
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Dr. Bromenshenk also posts of Bee-l, you can ask him there, or do a search he may have already posted the info
 
#31 ·
I quoted him as best I could. Hopefully not too out of context. Hopefully not throwing him under the bus so to say. He knows I Post on beesource and Post a lot. Mentioned to me one time, not recently that he liked what I Posted. So, seems to me anything he is willing to say in front of 100 people he would stand behind in front of thousands. He knows how things work on the Internet. He gave a whole talk about "Internet Myths, Facts, and Fictions". He's a big boy is what I am saying.
 
#33 ·
I don't doubt that Dave Wick deals in facts since you mentioned "studies", but that's one thing Bromenshenk said when he heard someone say that they knew that pesticides were what killed his bees, w/out chemical analysis.

I'm not familiar w/ Dave Wick, where is he from?
 
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#36 ·
a new post today about toxicity of some of the essential oils and stating that they shorten bees lives, but doesn't state which chemicals by Jerry Bromenshenk

http://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=ind1311&L=BEE-L&F=&S=&P=174928

We've also looked at a long list of essential oils (which members of Bee-L may/may not consider to be natural products). We looked at oils commonly found in various bee supplements and tonics. Many shortened bee life. So much for them being good for bees
 
#37 ·
wildbranch2007 said:
a new post today about toxicity of some of the essential oils and stating that they shorten bees lives, but doesn't state which chemicals by Jerry Bromenshenk

http://community.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-LSOFTDONATIONS.exe?A2=ind1311&L=BEE-L&F=&S=&P=174928

We've also looked at a long list of essential oils (which members of Bee-L may/may not consider to be natural products). We looked at oils commonly found in various bee supplements and tonics. Many shortened bee life. So much for them being good for bees
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Except that varroa and nosema also shorten bee life. In fact they kill the bees outright. Doesn't that still make EOs the better option?!? Isn't the key to use as little as possible to get results we need until such time as we can find an even better solution?

JMO

Rusty
 
#38 ·
Rusty Hills Farm said:
Except that varroa and nosema also shorten bee life. In fact they kill the bees outright. Doesn't that still make EOs the better option?!? Isn't the key to use as little as possible to get results we need until such time as we can find an even better solution?

JMO

Rusty
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I would certainly think so. I would definitely like the proactive approach myself. Dunno about my bees
 
#40 ·
I would hope that at some point he would post which chemicals have the affect on bees, If I used the products I would eliminate those and only use the ones that didn't affect the bees.
 
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