bjverano, good to hear you have a Warre too! I felt like I was the only one. Lang country around here too to the point that I stopped telling others what I had since they just assume you have a Lang anyway. Topbar anything seems to be frowned upon around here, I have found. Since I'm just after happy bees to pollinate my garden and not wanting to sell honey, it works for me. My mentor just looked at me funny when he saw my set up for the first time but they are doing way better in the Warre than my "deep" Long Lane, the calmest bees I've ever been around. Not sure if just a great queen or the way the Warre works. Anyway, glad to know your out there!