Yeah thanks for the replies. I just went to Bush's site and read about foundationless. I am not going to wire, Im excited about it actually as crazy as that sounds, something new. Fishing line wouldnt be a bad idea though either just for some support. Im guessing that the hives have to be perfectly level though huh? I am throwing around the idea of building my own frames to. I have a bunck of lumber lying around. Can I just build a rectangle the same size of the medium frames and put a guide in? That would be way easy!