Barry,Just an FYI, We are not going to allow attachments that are simply images, in PDF format. Attachments are reserved for document files that may include some imagery. There are plenty of free image hosting sites you can use for images.
Very helpful EastSideBuzz - thank you.
Actually I haven't spelled out ground rules for attachments as we've had so few of them. I have noticed a trend though, that it's being used as a way of posting pictures, so I decided to say something. Not picking on you.I did not see the 'groound rules' you are referring to above spelled out anywhere.
Here's another try at posting a picture of my first two queen cells raised using the Nicot System. Only two cells but I am very happy with how they look (and how they compare to the emergency queen cells I have been raising up to now):I will try to repost with my picture following these instructions this evening...
Funny; I read a lot of people recommending the beeworks DVD. Mine is in the mail right now! I got the full dvd, not just the Nicot system.
I looked... didn't find anything that jumped out on how to use the Nicot system.Is there another complete video out there on how to do it.?
If you aren't too concerned, then just doing splits and letting them raise their own queens works... but it puts the splits 4 weeks behind your other hives. I wanted to start raising queens for the fact that I can make up some queen cells, use a nuc to raise them... and then when the virgins hatch, do a bunch of small splits, giving each split a virgin queen. Couple of days for her to get mated and start laying; you will know within days if she's going to work out, or if the nuc is going to end up queenless. Huge advantage over waiting ~4 weeks!It is raining like crazy up here for weeks and we get a clear day every now and then. I need queens and need to do some splits so I was thinking that this type of a system might be easier to do in bad weather.
Minor differences in how they are constructed, and the parts that they use. I believe the nicot is less expensive. And I've read that the guy who owns Jenter was retiring, but that he has found a buyer for the rights to the tooling to continue producing components.What is the difference between the Jenner system? Also who has the best price on the one you recommend.?
I have never tried grafting but here is how I believe they compare in a couple ways:It is raining like crazy up here for weeks and we get a clear day every now and then. I need queens and need to do some splits so I was thinking that this type of a system might be easier to do in bad weather.
I think the Jenter system is now out of production (though recently I heard that it may be back). The two systems are very similar from what I hav read and about the only real difference could find is that the Nicot system ha an extra piece on the top bar. Both systems have cups that go in the cage and are transferred to the top bar. Both systems have cup holders that hold the cups and are attached to the top bar. In the case of the Jenter system, I believe that the cell cup holder is nailed to the top bar, while in the Nicot System there is ann additional piece called the 'Cell Fixture' which is nailed to the top bar and holds the cell-cup holder through friction (press-on). You can see the Brown Cell Fixture and the Yellow Cell Cup Holders of the Nicot System in my picture.What is the difference between the Jenner system?
Mann-Lake has a Nicot kit with enough cell fixtures and cup holders to graft 10 cells. It is less expensive than most of the other kits I have seen because most Nicot Kits seem to come with the parts to graft 20 cells. The Mann-Lake 10-cell kit is $70 and another 10 Brown Fixtures and Yellow Cupholders can be added for total of $12, so it comes out to about the same tat most of he bee equipmet outfits are chargng for a 20-cell set up but gives you the opportunity to start with only 10 cells at lower cost.Also who has the best price on the one you recommend.?
Thanks for the pic, beedeetee - now that I actually see how the cell bars for the Jenter System are designed, I agree that there are no significant differences between the systems.The Jenter cell bars are metal with drilled holes that the yellow bases rest in. If you wanted to move one, you would just take it out of one hole and put it in another.
I don't think that there is a significant difference between the systems. The cell cups snap into the cell wall which snaps into the yellow base which hangs in the cell holder bar.
So in the picture from mann lake it does not show the bars for the frame. Is that in the kit.?Thanks for the pic, beedeetee - now that I actually see how the cell bars for the Jenter System are designed, I agree that there are no significant differences between the systems.
The Mann-Lake kit does not include the bar. The brown fixtures nail onto the bottom of the top bar or you can nail them to a bottom bar and affix it between the side bars.So in the picture from mann lake it does not show the bars for the frame. Is that in the kit.?
Strongly recommend marking your queen if not already done. That is another fundamental difference between the 'graftless' grafting systems like Nicot and Jenter versus the convential grafting technique - you do need to be able to effectively find, capture, and cage the queen...Now I think you have to put the queen in the system? I cant find the queen usually when I am searching for her so this is going to be harder then it looks.