Can you spin those, or do you do cut comb/crush and strain? I've got one where I'm missing the bottom bar somehow. Might throw that one in there too to see how it goes.Just as Josph Clemens has stated is not an uncommon thing for them to do.I've been foundationless for over a decade,what I found works for me is no wire and no bottom bar.they always start at the top bar and some times they attach to the bottom bar.I don't feel wire or bottom bars are a bad thing they seem to give me what I like to see with out either.