Very true, as acceptance is a crucial element of any feed. However, all I'm seeing is acceptance rate. I'm not seeing anything about nutritional benefits, health benefits, cost, or what not. I can throw antifreeze out and my dog would accept it rather well, that doesn't mean it's helping him. I'm IN NO WAY comparing your product to antifreeze, I'm just making sure that we are clear that acceptance is not the only element that we need to be looking at.For any feed, nutrient or patty to be effective, we need to have acceptance.
So . . . it depends?The protein and carb % can be altered with ease. 5, 10, 20 or 40 % for either. The PH is very acidic, around 5 or so, that also can be changed easily.
I think that was kinda my point. If you feed formula A to a hive and they accept it rather well, their expectations or need as a result of formula A will result their acceptance of formula B, if you put it on right afterwords. I was just trying to make sure that you were aware of this, as I'm sure you are.We have several test hives at one time, some get all three, and some get only one, with several combinations in between.
That's what I was expecting, but I heard on one of the videos a comment about possibly "going to market." Obviously this would need more testing, but I wasn't aware what testing and information you have compiled as of yet.As far as increasing the life span of the bees, it's only been a few weeks. Only time will tell. ... And all living animals need vitamins, minerals, carbs and protein.
Yes Wayne, that was helpful, but I'm seeing a very large emphasis on acceptance rates alone. I understand that you are taking several other considerations into question, but it just isn't coming out on this end. Sure, you can put all kinds of goodies in the hive, but if the bees don't eat it it's all for nothing. But you can buy a great feed that is highly consumed and accepted, but if it doesn't help the hive it's all for nothing.You can put all kinds of goodies in the hive, if the bees don't eat it, well, that is all for not.
Sorry Ernie. It just gets a little old to have videos, pictures, and comments coming in such as "Formula A is being accepted well!", "New additive to Formula B!", "New Delivery Method to Formula C", or "New design to Formula D" and you don't appear to be interested discussing any questions, comments, or explanations on what you are doing. It seems pointless to have these threads (at time) other than to boast. And you've been known for that Ernie. (No offense intended)Let's have a positive attitude about answering questions.
Without a doubt. No one is saying you should be sharing all of your information to everyone on the web. No one is saying that you shouldn't be reimbursed for your time, efforts, and materials that you put into it. But there is a difference between keeping your mouth shut and developing a new patty formula (either for your own use or for marketing use), and waving your formula in front of everyone's face, then ignoring everyone when they ask what's up with it.The time and materials dedicated to this product can be quite involved.
You kinda played right into it Ernie. When asked what your protein, vitamin, and fat levels are, you copied and pasted what the protein rates were of another product on the market. No one asked about that. I just asked what is different about your product. The contents and levels of a comparable product doesn't really have anything to do with your product, other than to claim that you are doing the same thing they are. In which case, they have much more R&D in their product, so why would you compare it to that?FYI:This information was taken off another product that is on the market:
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I'm aware that the wording of my posts often can sound aggressive or insulting. I'm at least trying to rectify the problem.Not trying to be aggressive or insulting.
I notice that the majority of your postings end in the above words or wording.
1. Calm down Ernie.Lets see you put out some data or videos instead of just typing messages.
I've stated over and over again, I'm not interested in your product. I don't want your information to copy it. I'm sorry if you feel that I'm trying to manipulate you and extract information from you, because I'm not.You do not get that information because it's not available to you.
You can wait and wait.
10 going into the winter. Last check I might have lost 3, not sure yet (still a little chilly in this part.BTY? How many hives do you have under your care?
Haha, there you go! I think that just clarified everything. I mistook your threads for boasting, bragging, conveying information (without conveying information) or potential future advertising.I happen to be very enthusiastic about the material.
Ernie, just remember when you put something out there, you leave it open to criticism, conjecture, and comments. I would really enjoy it if you kept the information coming, but please be patient in their interpretation.I think that's a form of repeated verbal attacks!
PM will be sent shortly. Thank you for remaining patient with me (you as well Ernie).Send me a msg . . . We really do need more input on these formulations.