Try this for locating a vet: https://www.hbvc.org/
Do you have a reference for this frank?Though treated the bacteria can remain dormant in comb for close to two years.
understatement of the year nancy.EFB sucks!
I wish I had collected all my links. This one in second paragraph is the closest I found in a quick search re: survival time on comb. https://articles.extension.org/page...a-bacterial-disease-affecting-honey-bee-broodDo you have a reference for this frank?
many thanks frank. good idea about saving the links. i've got 20+ hours pouring through what literature the searches bring up. there has been mention of the bacteria persisting in equipment but not on how long.I wish I had collected all my links. This one in second paragraph is the closest I found in a quick search re: survival time on comb. https://articles.extension.org/page...a-bacterial-disease-affecting-honey-bee-brood
Quite commonly references were to 7 months survival in honey and 18 months in "beebread". Recent studies show quite a few different sub types with wide variations in virulence confuses peoples reported experience with mellissococcus plutonius
I believe both Flowerplanter and Enjambres have quite a collection of material and links on EFB
Oh how familiar this is.understatement of the year nancy.
i am scrambling at this time dealing with an outbreak. 8 multi-year colonies surviving off treatments have been euthanized. 3 others have been moved to a quarantine yard.
i'm not sure where it came from, but discovered there are now at least 3 'new' beekeepers within flying distance of my yards with bees imported from out of the area, at least 2 of which have yet to get a colony through a winter. haven't made contact with the third one yet.
quadruple dang. will update my thread when the dust settles, if it even does.
indeed.The uncertainty is the most discouraging part of the whole experience.
could this be the video you are referring to lharder?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0B9o4GHq7U&feature=youtu.be
(highly recommended viewing to anyone wanting to get up to speed on efb, and my starting point for further inquiry into some of the ground covered in the video)
it turns out there are 35 different 'sequence types' of efb. the various types are differentiated from each other using a molecular genetic technique referred to as 'mlst', which stands for 'multi-locus sequence typing'.
it appears that efb typing is being used to determine the course of action for remediation. choices include shook swarm, oxytetracylcline, or destruction (burning) depending on the efb type.
preventative measures such as arranging apiaries to minimize drift and avoiding the mixing and matching of equipment/resources are also discussed.
i also place a high value having the microbiota inside the cavity and including the colony not be disturbed once having reached a balanced and healthy ecosystem but,I am just starting to read papers by Nance Moran about bee gut microbiota. Not sure if I would want to disrupt that in my bees as in theory it could be a destroying a valuable resource.
Mine wasn't a criticism sp. Just my own strategy. Destruction, isolation of frames, isolation of equipment, ionization of frames equipment, no nuc sales. I'm in general agreement, I assume my microbiota/genetics will be reasonably well represented by colonies not symptomatic and not destroyed.i also place a high value having the microbiota inside the cavity and including the colony not be disturbed once having reached a balanced and healthy ecosystem but,
what might be the lesser of the evils?
losing a microbiota and genetics that combined have seven winters survival and have produced average or above average honey crop,
losing all of the microbiota and genetics after the colony reaches full collapse just because it happened to catch a tummy ache from it's neighbor,
or insert human intervention into a system despite its having an exceptional track record over time in the hopes of preserving the genetics and or what microbiota survives the human intervention, in the case using a selective synthesized antibiotic?