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hello

here is the shock!

this morning i inspected a new location.
well situated on a slope, not too wet for rain forrest.

i put 2 good nucs there about 3 weeks ago.
10 days ago i checkked and all was good.
today one of the nucs is empty - completely.
nothing - no eggs, no brood, no capped, not a single bee, no queen, no dead bees - nothing.
no food, no pollen no honey no nothing.

ccd should have some things left.

but this?

does anyone know anything about ccd in ecuador? there is no source of information here.
what els could hhave caused this disapearence?

one thing though: i bought those two populations from a freind - they are not pure africanised-they have been very gentle.
and it looks like they have quite some italian in them. the only difference to alll my other hives, that are in different locations and alll africanised.

thanks for any infos ladies and gentleman.

i am very happy to be able to post here for info - ecuador is pretty difficult.

thanks
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Is it possible the bees absconded and all the remnants, brood, dead bees etc got hauled off by ants?

I doubt CCD is the problem; but I also do not believe in CCD. I do believe is PPBK which can resemble what is described as CCD.

Welcome to Beesource. We would live to see pictures of your hives.
 

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Very interesting.

I don't have them in my area, but from what I have read, absconding is a trait of Africanized bees while Italians are very unlikely to do so.
 

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Is it possible the bees absconded and all the remnants, brood, dead bees etc got hauled off by ants?

I doubt CCD is the problem; but I also do not believe in CCD. I do believe is PPBK which can resemble what is described as CCD.

Welcome to Beesource. We would live to see pictures of your hives.
hi
no antss in sight - i do not believe this is it.
what is PPBK?

thanks
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Very interesting.

I don't have them in my area, but from what I have read, absconding is a trait of Africanized bees while Italians are very unlikely to do so.
hi
do you mind telling me some facts about absonding.
the weird thing is that there is no eggs, dead broood, nothing - it looks like licked clean in there.

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hi
no antss in sight - i do not believe this is it.
what is PPBK?

thanks
ingo
PPBK: Pisspoor beekeeping, also known as hive neglect.

hi
do you mind telling me some facts about absonding.
the weird thing is that there is no eggs, dead broood, nothing - it looks like licked clean in there.

thanks
If bees are unhappy with their living situation they move out without paying the rent. Robbing would clean out any stores that were in the hive... A good colony of ants can clean out brood and eggs in an undefended hive in a hurry. Though the queen likely would have stopped laying prior to absconding.
 

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Is it possible the bees absconded and all the remnants, brood, dead bees etc got hauled off by ants?

I doubt CCD is the problem; but I also do not believe in CCD. I do believe is PPBK which can resemble what is described as CCD.

Welcome to Beesource. We would live to see pictures of your hives.
PPBK ?

>> i put 2 good nucs there about 3 weeks ago.
10 days ago i checkked and all was good.
today one of the nucs is empty - completely.

Pretty quick with that conclusion, don't you think?
 

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Here's what I know about CCD vs absconding, but I hope someone more knowledgeable than me will reply also.
With CCD a strong hive is found with a few nurse bees left plus brood in various stages. The foragers never returned to the hive after they flew out. With absconding, the bees will fly out like a swarm to a new home. The only bees left may be a few that were out foraging when the others left.

I hope you ignore the PPBK comment.
 

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PPBK ?

>> i put 2 good nucs there about 3 weeks ago.
10 days ago i checkked and all was good.
today one of the nucs is empty - completely.

Pretty quick with that conclusion, don't you think?
I said the OP's bees absconded... I don't think that is a quick conclusion at all. In fact I think most who replied to the thread agreed.
 

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It is possible the hive has been queenless for at least 3 weeks. All brood has hatched and the queenless and broodless bees drifted to the other hive.
 
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