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Opinions needed. The attached pic shows one of my frames, ( the others are similar in appearance ). Should I re-queen?
 

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Are the cells full of pollen/honey preventing her from laying eggs in the open cells? It could be just a matter of timing where food/pollen was stored as the frame was being drawn and the egg patter got offset. For new hives, I would think this is normal.

Personally, if you are seeing consistent and aggressive egg laying in open cells, and the bees are progressing well otherwise - why mess with it?
 

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Not normal for a new hive. Pattern is very spotty. I would put the queen in a nuc, she might straighten out but doubtful. I'd consider ordering a new queen or talk to your supplier. New queen should not be that spotty a lot of drone brood would be fairly normal.
 

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I ordered a new one last week in anticipation. She should be here today or tomorrow. I'll double check the frames for pollen and nectar/water before I re-queen.

Thanks for your thoughts.
 

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Can't see in the pic, but is it worker brood or drone brood?

You have an interesting way to hold a comb by the way, you do yoga or something?
 

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LOL. I was just turning it so my son could get a picture. I am taking pictures of both sides of all frames in this hive to analyze in photoshop on superzoom. The brood are mostly worker.
 

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Is she laying solid eggs and they are hygienic? I do not care if it is pretty if it works.
 

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Honestly, I cannot see the rationale for disrupting things. You have brood, and loads of it by the looks - this is a good thing. Requeening will add cost, time in laying, stress, and the possibility that she may not be accepted or have issues her own.

Outside there being other issues under the surface, does that outweigh a brood pattern's aesthetics? I do not think so.
 

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Honestly, I cannot see the rationale for disrupting things. You have brood, and loads of it by the looks - this is a good thing. Requeening will add cost, time in laying, stress, and the possibility that she may not be accepted or have issues her own.

Outside there being other issues under the surface, does that outweigh a brood pattern's aesthetics? I do not think so.
I hear you. It's tough though. If it is the Queen and I wait another two-three weeks, I am way behind. If its not the Queen, assuming ( I hate to assume ) the new Queen is a perfect fit, then I am only behind 3-4 days. I think I will wait one more week and see how everything shakes out before I pull the trigger.

Thanks for the reality check.
 

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The only way she will lay a good pattern after a poor one is on a blank slate. Empty comb or a new foundation in the brood nest if they are drawing comb quickly.
 

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Yes the open brood are laid solid.
Then she is laying a good pattern. You could be seeing open cells in the capped brood pattern because of hygenic behavior, a minor bit of disease, odd honey or pollen cells - any number of things. You are probably worrying about it too much. If you want to order a queen by all means do - but you might just use her to make a split.
 

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Your right David, I should have said pretty pattern, not good pattern, different things.
 

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I think I am overthinking it. I will let the bees do what they do and check back in a week
thanks for all the advice.
 

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If you do not requeen, keep an eye on it.

There are many causes for a pattern like this, if the queen used to be good, one cause can be she is running low on stored semen & starting to lay some drone eggs, and the bees remove them but leave the workers. Some bees do not remove the drones, but some do. If that is what is going on the queen will soon fail completely. Other causes can be a brood disease of some type such as EFB or varroa & the bees are cleaning them out, again, some bees will clean them & some will not, or not very well.

If the queen is inbred & mated with related drones the pattern can be like that, the bees remove the eggs that have the same alleles.

Or, it could just be a poor queen who will always lay like that, in which case the hive will fail to thrive because of the waste space in the brood nest. It can also be a good queen but there has been some issue with the combs causing her to lay patchy, and after it is cleared up her pattern will return to normal. But you have new looking combs so that is less likely.

If it was my hive and I was not able to analyse the cause, I would either requeen, or give it say, a month, and if no improvement requeen. These queens do occasionally go back to normal but more commonly, they don't.
 

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I don't think anything is wrong with her, it looks to me like she has went back and refilled the empty holes with eggs. Its hard to tell for sure but, it looks like there is larva all around that capped brood.
 
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