Bee space for Layens hive?

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Bbhomestead

Discussion Starter · Mar 12, 2021

Hi, I'm thinking about building some horizontal Layens hives. I was looking over the free plans at horizontal hive.com and unless I'm figuring my math wrong there's 3/4 of an inch of bee space between the hive Flore and frame bottoms. I'm new to bees but everything else I've read has said to go 1/4-3/8. Anyone have any experience with Layens hives and know why there built with a larger bee space?(unless my math is wrong which is possible)

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GregB

· #2 · Mar 12, 2021

FYI - the under-frame space is not really bee space - it is functionally different.
To realize this, you need to work with the deep hives and observe for yourself (Layens is one such example).

This has been discussed to the death already.
Even here:

Layens, Lazutin and Double Deep Lang... oh my

I just finished Lazutin's book and am currently reading Layen's book. Of course that has triggered impulsive surfing of Horizontal Hives and misc other deep box videos. I'm struck with a couple questions that some of you may be able to answer. First some context... I have all medium lang...

www.beesource.com

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Bbhomestead

Discussion Starter · #3 · Mar 12, 2021

Thanks for the link and explanation. I'm new to bees and trying to learn as much as I can. I searched for a while before I posted but I wasn't asking Google the right way.

Cheers,
Bb

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GregB

· #4 · Mar 12, 2021

Look at the picture of the Polish hive here and see how the under-frame/under-comb space is irrelevant in the bee-space discussion:

Is the Bee-Space necessary ?

This question is perhaps the ultimate act of beekeeping heresy. The 'Bee-Space' was 'invented' around 1850 by Langstroth, Dzierzon, and Baron August von Berlepsch, although it's usually Langstroth who's credited with the invention as a result of mentioning this spacing (although not claiming...

www.beesource.com

Issues with under-frame space originate from excessively shallow hives (Lang is one such case).

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Layens, Lazutin and Double Deep Lang... oh my

Is the Bee-Space necessary ?

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