[MSbeekeeper]

https://products.kelleybees.com/wtkprod/detail.aspx?item=1184

I'm starting to go foundation less and was wondering if anybody had any thoughts on these vs wedge top and putting the wedge on edge. I'm looking to order a bunch and wanted people thoughts first. Thanks

 

[RayMarler]

Yes, I do like the looks of these. price seems good too, from what I saw visiting Mannlake the other day.

 

[Robee]

I recently added a second deep to my 2 colonies that overwintered single deep boxs. I used these frames and they instantly started building them out and raising brood in them. So far I am pleased with these frames.
Robee

 

[MSbeekeeper]

Good to know, did you have to coat with wax?

 

[StevenG]

Think of all the work you'll save by getting those top bars already prepared for foundationless! Instead of having to remove the wedge, turn it, and nail it in. And no, you don't have to coat it with wax.

 

[MSbeekeeper]

Good deal thanks, Im about to order 170 of them suckers!!

 

[Michael Bush]

I would not coat them in wax. I would just use them. The wax makes no difference as far as them following them and it makes the comb less well atttached to the frame as the bees do a better job of attaching wax to the wood. I have some, but haven't had the chance to use them yet. I'm sure they will work fine. They are similar to many that I have used before.

 

[MSbeekeeper]

Great thanks!! ill let you know how they work out. I really wished i would have started foundationless in the begining! It appeals to me so much more.

 

[Robee]

I did drizzle some wax on them with a spoon but wasn't picky as to how complete or a nice straight line or anything. Just some to attract them.
Robby

 

[11x]

i wanted to try them but i decided to go with the wedge top bar. i am going to use a 2'' strip of small cell foundation as a guide.

 

[Michael Bush]

>Just some to attract them.

In my experience the wax will not attract them anymore than the wood. If they are looking for a place to drawn comb they will hang on the guide and build comb with or without the wax. They attach theirs so much better... with a mixture of wax and propolis worked deep into the wood as opposed to some wax kind of stuck to the surface...