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Is it normal for a hive to become more aggressive the stronger it gets? My strongest hive which has 15-17 deep frames of bees in it, put me out of their hive this afternoon. I do not wear leather gloves when working my bees. I am too fumble fingered with them on. I don't like wearing gloves at all but I generally wear a pair of thin, latex like nitrile gloves which typically last without a hole in them for a good 2-3 minutes.....

I started the inspection of my strongest hive, which was the fourth hive of the afternoon, around 5:30 CDT. I inspected the upper box which contained lots of nectar, pollen and 4-5 frames of capped brood. I then removed the top deep and got one frame about halfway unstuck from the box when the lower deep really got upset. My 11 year old son helps me with the hive inspections and mans the smoker. I got stung on my right palm right where the glove had torn during hive #1 inspection. I guess that bee released an alarm pheremone because the bees were covering my hand. I got my son to smoke me but it did little to help. There were 100's of mad bees bumping my face screen, so I decided to close the box and call off the inspections for the day.

When my smoker lighting set the pasture on fire on Tuesday, one of the fence posts that surround my bee yard burned in two at ground level. I took my son to the house and went to replace the fence post so I could get the electric fence back up around my hives. As soon as I got back to the bee yard, now without my bee jacket on, two or three guard bees met me. I retreated back and decided to try it again. The guard bee met me at the fence post hole, stinger first, right in the forehead. I took off running that time. That was when I decided to go get my bee jacket and that also when I made a bad decision to run to my 4 wheeler and retrieve it to save time from walking 1/2 mile back to my house. I jumped on the 4 wheeler and took two stings to the shoulder as I retreated.

On a positive note, the hive that I reversed brood boxes on 2 weeks ago has now nearly filled the upper deep with nectar and pollen. I'm estimating that there's now 40 lbs of nectar in the deep which had nothing but empty comb 2 weeks ago. I only saw one hive beetle during the inspection of the 3 1/2 hives. The bees have reworked comb in all hives checked and now there is quite a bit of drone brood in each hive. Most of it is capped. They had also made bridge comb between the boxes which was filled with drone brood. I saw no mites on any drone larvae that were exposed when I separated the boxes. No queen cells with eggs were seen in any of the hives. One hive had one queen cup made and the 2nd strongest hives had 3 queen cups made, but like I said, no eggs in any of them. I saw drones walking the frames in each hive but not a significant number. I'm not sure how long it takes drones to hatch after they are capped but our weather for next week looks very cool so I won't be making any splits until that passes. The dogwoods should be in full bloom by the first part of next week, just in time for the cold weather. I guess we will have a dogwood winter this year, just like nearly every other year that I can remember. Next will be blackberry winter then the cold will be over.
 

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I will look for the better quality nitrile gloves. Are you guys using a tight fitting glove or something like dishwashing gloves? If you could post a link to what you use, I would appreciate it. My normal smoking routine is to smoke the entrance with a couple of puffs then smoke the bees down into the frames as we work down into the hive. Maybe I'm not doing that right.

I do think the time of day had more to do with it. I would have waited until I had time mid day Saturday but the weather isn't looking good here for then.
 

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The box that got upset did have another box on top of it. I didn't break the bond between the two boxes while inspecting the upper deep and there was quite a bit of bridge comb with larvae between the two boxes.

I don't mind the stings and I don't really mind the aggressive bees, but I didn't want my son to get stung multiple times if I could prevent it. I don't even wear a jacket or veil when the flow is on. I know my son will get stung but he is getting more accustomed to the bees each time we check them and I don't want him to get eaten up and get discouraged from helping me. It's gonna happen for him, but maybe it will be one or two stings and not 10-20. Yesterday I could see that situation turning into a sting fest if we had stayed in the hive. He didn't express any interest in helping me until late in the year last year so this is only the 3rd or 4th time he has helped me check them. He couldn't wait to tell "momma" last night how he was getting more use to the bees and stood right up next to the hives this time. Two weeks ago when I checked them he stood about 10 feet from the boxes puffing the smoker like an old freight train. LOL
 
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