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So I figured it might be time to put on a 2nd box so checked on them today this what Im seeing. They haven't built out the 3 frames closest to the end and you can see the middle frame doesn't look right. Any suggestions would be helpful to get back on track.. Bees 1.jpg Bees 2.jpg
 

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Checkerboard in the thee un-built frames. The middle frame looks like it has detached comb drawn on it and bees are using cells that are behind that ear of comb. This usually happens when there is extra space between the combs and can happen when undrawn foundation is against undrawn foundation. The opposite face on the adjacent also gets drawn unevenly as a result. If you want to save that brood make sure the queen is not on that frame (she could be behind those ears of comb) and then cut away any of the detached comb and non-flat comb that does not have brood in it. Move that frame all the way to the outside and face the detached comb toward the hive wall. If you have a frame of honey/pollen/nectar then put that between this frame and the brood nest, just move this frame as far from the brood nest as you can locate it so the queen doesn't return to it. This may divide the brood nest but it is summer so you'll be OK to do this. After the brood emerges cut away the rest of the detached comb. Then place that frame between two drawn frames and push all the frames tightly together. If you don't want to save that brood then just remove all the detached comb now and feed it to the chickens. Some of that comb will be attached and flat and it can be left. You should always push your frames tightly together. Your frames are what are known as Hoffman self spacing frames. The flare at the top of the frame side bars sets the spacing of the frames at 35mm so make sure that the frames always touch. Any extra space should be left at the outside. As you gain more experience you can judge when to make space between frames, but for now just keep them all together tight.
 

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JC - Thanks for that complete answer!. I'll get back in there tomorrow at noon and do that. I actually think the frame that's still in the in bees 1.jpg was the problem one. Will let you know after I get back in there.

Much appreciated!
 

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Opened up the hive this afternoon here is the latest pic of what is going on. I think I still have detached or not sure of the comb pattern that's in the middle.

It looks like it may be time to put on the super? But I don't want to do that if brood box is not right. Wish I had someone local that could check it out. Anyhow. Trying to keep these guys going hopefully through winter.

Bees 8-11-20.jpg Here's a pic from today. Thought, comments and criticism welcome!

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Yes, agree, new foundation needs to be waxed, especially the yellow ones for some reason. Even buying pre-waxed foundation it should still be waxed again with your beeswax. The bees accept it a bit more readily.
 

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I'm new to this but did you feed them? My first year I had two deeps on two hives from five frame nucs built out in about 6 weeks but I used one of those Mann Lake top feeders that holds like four gallons, filled them half way up and the girls had them dry in time to swap them out for my first level of supers. I also used QE's and the top feeder supers may have help the girls to be familiar with going through it. Take my advice with a grain of salt, I'm new at this and actual mileage may vary.
 

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There does not appear to be near enough bees to need a super added. Once the bees have built stand off comb they will have robbed the plastic foundation of what little bit of wax it had originally. It may not even have been waxed at all! It will require completely tearing off the wonky comb construction and rewaxing.

The colony is way behind what should be expected development; hard to get them going when they are below critical mass this late in the season. Hard to put foragers out when they are needed to cover brood. Feed, both nectar/sugar syrup as well as pollen sub should help.
 
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