What's the situation in Portland
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  1. #1
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    Default What's the situation in Portland

    Hi guys, the fires have been all over our TV over here, my best wishes to those affected.

    I'm asking about Portland because the news indicated it has been damaged, and is still at risk. Reason for my interest, I was about to get some freight routed through Portland. But if the place is in disarray, I won't.

    How bad is it?
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    Default Re: What's the situation in Portland

    Smoke.
    THICK THICK smoke.
    We can't breath.
    Take a look here:
    https://www.airnow.gov/?city=Portlan...OR&country=USA
    Type in, "Portland OR"
    Otherwise, your packages will move just fine. Don't worry.
    I have exactly ONE more hive than you.
    That makes my opinion beyond dispute!

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    Default Re: What's the situation in Portland

    Did as you said Harry, this is what I got

    Values above 500 are considered Beyond the Air Quality Index.

    Everyone should stay indoors and reduce activity levels. Stay tuned to local news media for advisories.

    (values were 516).

    Has the fire got into Portland City itself? Or is it threatening to?
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    Default Re: What's the situation in Portland

    Fires never were threatening the city of Portland, but more the outlying suburbs where you have the rural-urban interface. That's not true for some of the other fires in the state though especially in Medford. Air quality is nasty everywhere even in central Oregon which is three hours from Portland. Interesting, though, that at least my bees have had normal foraging activity and are bringing in lots of pollen. They do close up for the day a lot sooner as the smoke makes it darker sooner.

    Feel sorry for those that have to work outdoors in this smoke. Not healthy and will be at risk for increased respitory illness.

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    Default Re: What's the situation in Portland

    Good info Kevin, thanks.
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    Default Re: What's the situation in Portland

    POURING down rain this evening in Salem, Oregon for the first time in I don't know how long.
    Thank Heavens!!!
    I have exactly ONE more hive than you.
    That makes my opinion beyond dispute!

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    Default Re: What's the situation in Portland

    It's not often that an Oregonian is happy to see rain.

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    Default Re: What's the situation in Portland

    Great news.

    Enough to dampen things down permanently, or just temporary respite?
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    Default Re: What's the situation in Portland

    Well, there are still very large fires burning right now which won't be put out by even days of rain. It definitely helps, though, and is especially helpful with the air quality. Was on a call last night with Dewey Carron who I suspect many of you know and he was suggesting we leave our colonies alone for a while to allow the bees to reorient and settle given all the smoke and haze that we have had. They have had enough stress to deal with and don't need a beekeeper poking in for a look.

    Large fires like this will burn into winter and can even spot up next spring after snow thaw. That is incredible to me and shows how hot these fires can get.

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    Default Re: What's the situation in Portland

    Amazing.

    I remember with the Australian fires last year, they were so big they could not be controlled and the situation was dire. Then as providence would have it, there was a massive rain dump, so heavy that the problem in some areas now became flooding. But it did put an end to large areas of fire. Not all, but firefighters were now able to concentrate their efforts on less fires, and the whole thing was brought under control.
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    Default Re: What's the situation in Portland

    Ground is so dry the water is just running down hill. Still good to see it. The bees are all just clustered at the entry here at home. No birds are flying much. Just weird. We got downgraded from the evac area here but still have a dozen mating hives out in Eagle creek and don’t know if they will let me go look yet.
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    Default Re: What's the situation in Portland

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinf View Post
    ...........suggesting we leave our colonies alone for a while to allow the bees to reorient and settle given all the smoke and haze that we have had. They have had enough stress to deal with and don't need a beekeeper poking in for a look..
    That advice makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.
    And obviously not to most of Oregon beekeepers as well as that are all working on hives as weather permits.

    When we spend all evening loading hives on a semi and netting them,
    Send them into California across the interstate all day long,
    Spread them all out in an almond orchard......
    ....Are we supposed to leave them alone?

    I won't be taking that "advice".
    I have exactly ONE more hive than you.
    That makes my opinion beyond dispute!

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    Default Re: What's the situation in Portland

    HarryVanderpool,
    You have been know to speak bluntly.
    It is hard to design a safety net that some will not use as a hammock.

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    Default Re: What's the situation in Portland

    I’m in Sisters Oregon. Lots of smoke until late yesterday. Fed heavily both pollen and liquid to keep them in their boxes and distracted. They still look good.
    I'm smart but at the end of the day I'm still the help.

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    Default Re: What's the situation in Portland

    Here's an update from Oregon State University:
    https://extension.oregonstate.edu/fo...ires-have-bees
    I have exactly ONE more hive than you.
    That makes my opinion beyond dispute!

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    Default Re: What's the situation in Portland

    Harry well done. you found a story with balance and absent hysteria. Remarkable today.
    It is hard to design a safety net that some will not use as a hammock.

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