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    Default is this chilled brood or something worse?

    Found this on several frames this afternoon. dead larvae.jpg

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    Default Re: is this chilled brood or something worse?

    Hard to tell but it looks like crystalized nectar to me.
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    Yeah. It's not the greatest photo. I need to get a better picture or a better phone or take a photography class. What I was trying to show were the cells to the left of the center of the photo. That's dead larvae. Kind of shrunken and shriveled up in the cells. I don't know if it was just abandoned by the colony due to weather or whether there is some sort of disease causing the issue. There is similar dead larvae on several frames. We had some days where the lows were in the upper 30's and lower 40's about two weeks ago. This is a small hive at the moment (1 10 frame medium box).

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    Default Re: is this chilled brood or something worse?

    Photos do strange things to the bottom of cells. Seeing black spots.
    Uncap some cells and pull out some of the crusty critters.
    Chilled killed brood will often stay capped when there is a lot of it. Uncap a few of those also.

    OK you answered that. If you have capped dead larva that is not total mush it is probably chilled. What does the live brood look like?

    Guessing new splits?
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    Default Re: is this chilled brood or something worse?

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    some more pictures. One is a picture of the dead larvae that fell out of the cells when I set it on it's side to get some pictures. one is a closer view of the dead larvae in the cells and one is a picture of larvae that was capped next to some of the dead larvae.

    This was....you guessed it..........a swarm from one of my other hives.
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    Default Re: is this chilled brood or something worse?

    I'm not used to seeing uncapped brood dead from chilling so no advice there. They let the capped die and keep the uncapped covered. That or they stay on, starve, and the whole hive dies. They will leave dead for a long time if there are not enough bees to clean up and raise brood at the same time.

    Photo 3 looks more like eating the dead than pulling them out.
    It is hard to design a safety net that some will not use as a hammock.

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    Default Re: is this chilled brood or something worse?

    Is the hive starving?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldtimer View Post
    Is the hive starving?
    In the first picture there is some food in the corner.


    Strange looking indeed.

    What came to my mind is some poisoning killed the pupa(larvae) and bees are removing them.

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    Default Re: is this chilled brood or something worse?

    You are right Juhani it is not starvation.

    So next question, does the hive have enough bees to cover the brood and keep it warm during the cold snap, and has the brood been spread recently?
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    Default Re: is this chilled brood or something worse?

    Not seeing any calls for disease.
    Give the bees a donor shake or two. You might move a frame or two to a stronger hive to clean up faster. They do get to stink.
    It is hard to design a safety net that some will not use as a hammock.

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