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    Default How often to re-bate swarm trap

    This is my first year setting out traps. I use LGO at the entrance and drop a cotton ball with LGO inside the box. How often should I go back and re-apply? Or is this a once a year deal? Learning all I can here. Thanks for your input.

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    Default Re: How often to re-bate swarm trap

    Welcome to Beesource. LGO lasts pretty much all swarm season so you should not need to rebait. Be careful not to use too much. Two drops is all you need. Swarm Commander, if used, recommends reapplying every couple of weeks. I have had a swarm move into a bait hive that had not been baited for over a year. YMMV.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Default Re: How often to re-bate swarm trap

    Thank you JWPalmer. I sure appreciate the guidance. Currently have 4 traps set and probably another 10 to go. I wanted to make sure I didn't have to keep going back every few weeks to re-apply LGO.

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    Default Re: How often to re-bate swarm trap

    Quote Originally Posted by JWPalmer View Post
    Welcome to Beesource.
    Agreed- welcome to Beesource. And good luck in your trapping efforts this year!

    Where are you located?
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    Default Re: How often to re-bate swarm trap

    Thank you... ! Located in Central Louisiana

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmcdaniel View Post
    Thank you... ! Located in Central Louisiana
    Any hits yet on your traps?
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    Default Re: How often to re-bate swarm trap

    Not a single one. Not sure what else to try for bait besides LGO. Currently have 6 out, and 4 more to set. I am trying something a little different in each trap though. Some with more space, some full of frames, etc.. to see what works best. Also, I try and find good locations, but again im new to this game.

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    Default Re: How often to re-bate swarm trap

    Quote Originally Posted by kmcdaniel View Post
    Not a single one. Not sure what else to try for bait besides LGO. Currently have 6 out, and 4 more to set. I am trying something a little different in each trap though. Some with more space, some full of frames, etc.. to see what works best. Also, I try and find good locations, but again im new to this game.
    Seeing any swarm scouts buzzing around the traps?
    Ecclesiastes 11:4

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    Default Re: How often to re-bate swarm trap

    Quote Originally Posted by kmcdaniel View Post
    Not a single one. Not sure what else to try for bait besides LGO. ..
    Try some Swarm Commander. It is expensive, but very effective (and don't spill it in your car or you won't be able to keep the windows down without bees coming inside)

    https://blythewoodbeecompany.com/col...arm-lure-spray

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    Default Re: How often to re-bate swarm trap

    Amen to that. Two years ago I got some lemon grass oil in my suv. Drove around with bees in the vehicle for about two weeks.

    Give it some time. Unless there are bees close by, it could take a week or more. I have had some traps that never even appeared to have been scouted, others within a day or two. Traps were about 1 mile apart. Go figure.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    One of the traps I have out I did see a couple scouting. They went in and checked it out for a minute then flew off. I just put out two more yesterday. Keeping fingers crossed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthiesbees View Post
    Try some Swarm Commander. It is expensive, but very effective (and don't spill it in your car or you won't be able to keep the windows down without bees coming inside)

    https://blythewoodbeecompany.com/col...arm-lure-spray
    I will have to give that a try. Thank you

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    Can we use the room mister type oils or must we spring for the expensive real deal? thanks

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    Default Re: How often to re-bate swarm trap

    Dubious, welcome. Swarm Commander appears expensive at around $30. But it isn't really because you use very little per trap. Lemon grass essential oil is very inexpensive. You can buy it online, at your local drugstore, or at shops that sell candle making supplies, usually at less than $10 for a small bottle. After three years of setting traps, my bottle still appears full.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Default Re: How often to re-bate swarm trap

    Well just to update everyone. Currently have 10 traps out as of today. No success of as yet. I am trying various tactics to see what works best for my area. Keeping fingers crossed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmcdaniel View Post
    I am trying various tactics to see what works best for my area. Keeping fingers crossed.
    From my very humble vantage point, I think this is a good approach- find out what works for your locale.

    Best of luck to you.

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    Default Re: How often to re-bate swarm trap

    I have had pretty good success trapping swarms with a box the size of a deep 10 frame and a medium. I have been loading with 10 frames and leave the medium open. I alternate starter strip frames and frames of foundation and usually at least a piece of old comb or an old frame with drawn comb. Also some bits of propolis and bee smelling stuff. I use the propolis like a crayon on the outside of the box to give it a (hive) smell and last but not least two cone shape centrifuges of lemongrass oil. They slowly evaporate on the inside of the box. One would probably do but this is how I have been doing it. One spritz of swarm commander across the top of the frames and I put the box on a pole about 6 to 7 feet up.

    I have tried boxes full of frames and they do not seem to be as attractive as a box with a little open space in it when the scouts come to check it out.

    One word of caution though. Never leave a trap with the top of the box not full of frames of some sort. The first few traps I had success with were short of frames because I didn't have enough to fill the traps. The bees built in the open space first and attached everything to the lid. When I finally got the lid pried off most of the colony fell into the bottom of the box in a heap. Luckily the colony made it but it was just dumb luck.

    Good Luck

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    Default Re: How often to re-bate swarm trap

    Another update... Ran all 10 traps over the past week with no luck. Yesterday I went check another trap I had set out and behold, we have a swarm that moved in. Seems to be a very strong swarm, there are tons of bees flying around and going in and out of the box. Will let them sit for another 4-5 days make sure they are nice and cozy before moving them to the yard.

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    Picture time! Congratulations on your first swarm.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Default Re: How often to re-bate swarm trap

    Quote Originally Posted by kmcdaniel View Post
    Another update... Ran all 10 traps over the past week with no luck. Yesterday I went check another trap I had set out and behold, we have a swarm that moved in. Seems to be a very strong swarm, there are tons of bees flying around and going in and out of the box. Will let them sit for another 4-5 days make sure they are nice and cozy before moving them to the yard.
    Congrats. Fun, isn't it? You won the lottery!

    Did you try the Swarm Commander, or just lemongrass? What configuration of trap?

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