Premature ejaculation
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    Default Premature ejaculation

    After watching Michael Palmer’s queen marking video, I was practicing marking drones so I could better mark queens next year. Of the 10 or so drones I marked, five ejaculated and died. I was being very gentle and did not squish them. One ejaculated while I was holding His wing, another holding his legs, another holding his thorax, and another was marked and released and I found him 5 minutes later with his insides out. I definitely did not squash them. I was surprised at the very noticeable “pop” I felt when it happened. Comments?

    By the way, if you haven’t seen them there are some fabulous lectures on YouTube from the British Honey convention.

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    Default Re: Premature ejaculation

    I must admit your post has put many smiles on my face — does “interspecies attraction” exist?

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    I was wearing nitrile gloves and a bee suit. I was NOT playing Barry White. All the videos I have seen seemed to show the beekeeper crushing the drone and squeezing his insides out. I guess that was a wrong assumption.

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    Default Re: Premature ejaculation

    these were young drones. dont you remember your early teenage days?

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    Default Re: Premature ejaculation

    Wow. That is new to me. I have forced the endophallus out by squeezing a drone, but I have had to put some significant pressure on them to force it out.

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    Default Re: Premature ejaculation

    Do you have to talk dirty to them first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by COAL REAPER View Post
    these were young drones
    In the case of bees these were old mature drones.

    When doing insemination this phenomena is a nuisance sometimes. Sticking with a needle into the abdomen sides prevents this pretty much.

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    I have 2 hives and this was my first winter so I was surprised to see drones. They must be overwintered drones, so likely old. I watched a couple of mating lectures on YouTube from the British Honey Show and the doctor from Texas mentioned that the quality of sperm is variable and drops off with age. A good reason to delay apiary growth until warmer weather for better mating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim KS View Post
    Do you have to talk dirty to them first?
    LOL I was thinking a similar thing. Something along the line of "magic touch"

    Perhaps your idea of "I was being very gentle" Andhors , is needing a bit more refinement. You may want to try marking a couple dud queens prior to the good ones.

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    You might be right! I saw the idea of marking drones on YouTube and thought it was brilliant. It relieves a lot of the anxiety of handling bees for newcomers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andhors View Post
    You might be right! I saw the idea of marking drones on YouTube and thought it was brilliant. It relieves a lot of the anxiety of handling bees for newcomers.
    Right.. I was going to start marking drones next year, to get up to speed marking queens. I just have nightmares about finally getting a great queen then injuring her painting the dot on. So So far I have unmarked queens, has not really caused many issues. Biggest gain for me would be to know when a queen is supercedured, so I know if it is a young queen or a 2 or 3 year old in the fall.

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    Yes, it is not a huge benefit. I do like the instant eye pull to the paint to see the queen. I bought eBay Chinese paint that was marketed for queen marking last year, my first year, and it didn’t stick. Looked at the pen closely, it is ERASABLE! Live and learn. I will mark my queens next year because I am a hobbyist and like to have an excuse to be interacting with the bees. If you haven’t seen Michael Palmer’s queen marking video, check it out.

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    Default Re: Premature ejaculation

    Quote Originally Posted by Andhors View Post
    I was surprised at the very noticeable “pop” I felt when it happened.
    Ay yup, had a drone in a loosely closed fist one time. Felt a pop, wondering what that could be. Opened my fist to see . . . You know the rest.

    My markers. Plunge point acrylic paint pens called "Painters". Sold singly (+-$2)
    or in 5 pack at Walmart (+-$9). The 5 pack has all the queen colors except yellow. Black is in it's place.
    Paint stays on queen's black dot for multiple years.

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