What, if anything, does it mean to spot the queen here?
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    Default What, if anything, does it mean to spot the queen here?

    I spotted my queen on a frame of capped and uncapped honey. There were no empty cells (that I could see) on that frame. Is there any significance to that? The adjacent frame did have brood. I suppose she could have inadvertently been lifted out with the honey frame. However, I am concerned about this colony's well-being. The brood area is small and a bit spotty. There were even some drone cells. This is a swarm I captured last spring and it never really got going. I treated with Apivar strips in the fall and just finished course of treatment with Apiguard.

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    Default Re: What, if anything, does it mean to spot the queen here?

    Does not mean anything in particular. She was probably running ahead of you as you pulled frames for inspection. You just happened to find her on that frame of honey, she probably slowed down running ahead as she hit the honey frames. I've found queens all places, including on my upper arm or shoulder when inspecting through a hive.
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    Default Re: What, if anything, does it mean to spot the queen here?

    Where are you located?

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    Default Re: What, if anything, does it mean to spot the queen here?

    Apiguard (not apivar) can contribute to spotty brood. Shouldn't contribute to drone brood though.

    Plan would be to see how things are looking in 2 or 3 months time if you are not happy with the brood pattern then consider requeening.
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    Default Re: What, if anything, does it mean to spot the queen here?

    Ya, she might be a queen that’s failing, no telling how old she is considering it was a caught swarm.
    As RayMarler says, if you can’t find her look on your shoulder. Queens are so dam bloody quick sometimes lol.
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    Default Re: What, if anything, does it mean to spot the queen here?

    I figured this was an old queen since the swarm never filled more than 4 frames. I was wondering if the queen being on a frame of honey (nowhere to lay) had significance.

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    Default Re: What, if anything, does it mean to spot the queen here?

    Not really significant, depending what happens when you work the hive they could run off anywhere.
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    Default Re: What, if anything, does it mean to spot the queen here?

    In spring I occasionally see an established queen on top the frames or in odd places when I open up the hive. She's almost always running scared from a virgin queen below her somewhere putting the run on her. I just close the lid and let them sort it out. Upon later inspection, the marked queen is always gone with a new queen in her place. Laying up those frames of dark comb with pearly whites.

    Its pretty early for that tho, even in your area

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    What do you notice about the frame of brood above? Be specific. Time of year and its placement are a factor. Lets see who can figure it out.
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    Default Re: What, if anything, does it mean to spot the queen here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauri View Post
    What do you notice about the frame of brood above?
    Looks like a frame of brood from the bottom half of a double brood box setup. Hopefully it is spring time. If not, they better have some food stored for the winter!
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    Default Re: What, if anything, does it mean to spot the queen here?

    Correct!
    In a triple, actually. Getting crowded above, queen moving down to lay.

    Heres a couple more examples of different locations:

    This an overwintered frame as she moves upward.
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    Frame from center of brood nest
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    Frame from a mating nuc with recently returned mated queen. Easy to see they are clearing out room for her to lay.
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    Also from a mating nuc with new laying queen going to town
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    Overwintered honey frame above cluster, late winter/ early spring
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    Default Re: What, if anything, does it mean to spot the queen here?

    Excellent pics and descriptions. Thanks Lauri. J

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