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    Have quite a bit of old pine logs. Any issue using this pine for boxes? Will be chewed with some small holes. Thoughts?

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    Default Re: Worm wood

    Will be fine. A dab of polyurethane glue or caulk will fill any holes that you don't want.
    It is not true that you cannot teach an old dog new tricks.
    They can learn them, they just can't do them.

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    Default Re: Worm wood

    In 1996 hot I pressure washed antique oak beams for a construction job. All kinds of beetles and worms came out. The contractor loaded them up and out to a fumigator before using them for the residence.
    I once made covers out of cedar pallet lumber. They rotted within 5 years.
    All of my opinions and suggestions are based on my five decades of actual beekeeping,
    not so much on book learning, watching YouTube videos nor reading internet sites.

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    Default Re: Worm wood

    If you can wait, you can also put them out in your yard in summertime, tarped over with a black cover, and cook them out... Essentially creating a lumber kiln. Won't be anything alive left in there after a few weeks in the sun

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    You really won't know what kind of condition the wood is in until it is sawn into boards. If it is full of small holes but otherwise sound, saltybee's advice seems right to me. If the holes are real small, the bees will take care of them.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Default Re: Worm wood

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton Huestis View Post
    Have quite a bit of old pine logs. Any issue using this pine for boxes? Will be chewed with some small holes. Thoughts?
    I would not worry a bit.
    I'd take your wood with holes if I only could.

    A matter of fact - old time beeks SEARCHED for dead wood of spongy/holly structure.
    It was not an easy find because such wood is not made into typical lumber.

    My own Dad showed me how our own Dadant hives all had the internal walls constructed of exact such wood.
    Some sort of dry-rot spruce, but yet it was solid enough for the internal walls (double-wall construction).

    Why?
    Because porous wood is good natural insulator (not the same as the "chewed with some small holes", but still a non-issue).
    Former "smoker boy". Classic, square 12 frame Dadants >> Long hive/Short frame/chemical-free experimentations.

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    Default Re: Worm wood

    Sounds like a lot of work relative to how long the boxes might last...but I'm not a restorer-type.
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    Default Re: Worm wood

    I would use the wood
    if the holes are an issue for you then there are ways.... you can mix sawdust with glue and paste the holes with that, if there is a lot, of holes, caulk could work.
    I take my hive cleaning scraps and melt them, paste the insides with a wax propolis mix. for lids with tin over the holes are a bit of ventilation.
    exterior: caulk, glue , sawdust paint, interior: wax, propolis, and glue, I have all used.
    GG

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    Default Re: Worm wood

    I'd use it - but then I happily use pallet-wood to make boxes.

    I find that such wood lasts well, providing you can keep the rain off it - which is why I paint my boxes, and provide all hives with a substantially-made telescopic roof.
    LJ
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    Default Re: Worm wood

    I worked for a company that had a small mill and I can attest that once white pine turns to punk it's worthless.
    If you value your time and labor,the cost of fresh logs is negligible.

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