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    Default Re: Low cost bee box construction

    Quote Originally Posted by HaplozygousNut View Post
    The Titebond III I have tried was better than the exterior grade liquid nail in holding up against moisture, but still would over a few months dissolve from being exposed to rain in our humid climate here in North Carolina.
    I doubt you are any more humid than we are here in Richmond, VA. I do like Frank and use rabbeted joints on the boxes I make, but like the tight fitting joints of a well made finger joint. The Titebond III has held up well on both types. I also use a small brush to spead the glue evenly on all contact surfaces. Of course, I give my boxes a coat of oil based primer followed by two coats of latex top coat. I just last week had to take an unglued finger joint apart and it was a real pain. The replacement piece I made got glued in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaplozygousNut View Post
    I see that it is commonly thought otherwise, but as I have said before the finger joints seem to be a rather weak joint. I am gentle with the hives in order to not pull them apart. The Titebond III I have tried was better than the exterior grade liquid nail in holding up against moisture, but still would over a few months dissolve from being exposed to rain in our humid climate here in North Carolina.
    There's no way that Titebond III is "dissolving" in the weather. It's incredibly difficult to soften it even chemically once it's cured. The wood will pull apart before the adhesive will fail which can, however happen with excessive moisture getting to the wood. We'll have to agree to disagree about the strength of the finger joints. When properly constructed they are very hard to break.
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    Jim_in_PA, have you tried leaving frames that were glued with Titebond III out in the rain to get soaking wet? I have and that glue did dissolve once the water got soaked into the wooden frames. This is extreme and does not happen when boxes are stacked vertically with a lid on top so that the rain gets shed before soaking into the wood.

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    Default Re: Low cost bee box construction

    Quote Originally Posted by HaplozygousNut View Post
    Jim_in_PA, have you tried leaving frames that were glued with Titebond III out in the rain to get soaking wet? I have and that glue did dissolve once the water got soaked into the wooden frames. This is extreme and does not happen when boxes are stacked vertically with a lid on top so that the rain gets shed before soaking into the wood.
    No, I have not...I don't make frames. TB-III isn't supposed to be used in situations where something is immersed in water, however, so perhaps what you describe gets close to that kind of scenario., although I suspect that a lot of what you experienced may have been related to the wood being saturated, especially if it was pine that's often used for frames.
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