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    Default funny story, really short on facts but high on speculation

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    And they walk amongst us!

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    Default Re: funny story, really short on facts but high on speculation

    Outside of the whole "save the bees" mentality, this reminds me of a short story by Jean Giono that I read as a teenager sometime in the 1970's. It is worth a few minutes time.

    the_man_who_planted_trees_jean_giono_1995.pdf
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWPalmer View Post
    Outside of the whole "save the bees" mentality, this reminds me of a short story by Jean Giono that I read as a teenager sometime in the 1970's. It is worth a few minutes time.

    the_man_who_planted_trees_jean_giono_1995.pdf
    I love that story, what a gem! truly a way of life that I try to embrace. Thanks for posting that. Deb
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildbranch2007 View Post
    Yes, lots of speculation. Would like to see the facts as to how many "log homes" he has made and how many are being used. Also seems to be a lot of work when there are so many other homes you could make for bees to use. Thanks for sharing the story.

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    I like it. Good for him. Wonder if it will last?

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    Wonderful story JW, thanks. J

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    JW, thank you for that.
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    Default Re: funny story, really short on facts but high on speculation

    I gotta admit, I do it too, though it is not a mission of mine, and I do keep bees in some well-built hives.

    More places for feral and "wild bees" to live is unlikely to hurt Mother Nature a whole lot. I've left nearly a hundred of the mason bee blocks around 5 counties- the ones with the grids of 5/16ths inch (8mm) diameter holes 4-1/4 inches (10.8 cm) deep. I stop by construction jobs and ask for cutoff pieces.

    I also use an ice auger for bore out large, fallen tree limbs, and tie them up in the trees. The colonies that occupy them have thrown me a good number of swarms over the years.

    These practices done along rivers help keep the trout nice and fat, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWPalmer View Post
    Outside of the whole "save the bees" mentality, this reminds me of a short story by Jean Giono that I read as a teenager sometime in the 1970's. It is worth a few minutes time.the_man_who_planted_trees_jean_giono_1995.pdf
    Got it to open from the desktop- great story.

    I was struck by this line, "When you remembered that all this had sprung from the hands and the soul of this one man, without technical resources, you understand than men can be as effectual as God in other realms than that of destruction."

    Thanks for sharing this gem.
    Last edited by Litsinger; 11-15-2019 at 11:00 AM.
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    Default Re: funny story, really short on facts but high on speculation

    The "save the bees" blurb can be dropped.
    We need to save the insects as a whole, not "bees".

    Otherwise a worthy project - anyone should benefit from presence of self-sustaining (but yet protected) feral bees.
    Now that the honey bees have been entrenched in the North America (just like the apples too) - might as well let them be.
    Most anyone could be running 1-2 un-managed log-hives in the "back 40", just as well.
    Former "smoker boy". Classic, square 12 frame Dadants >> Long hive/Short frame/chemical-free experimentations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregV View Post
    Most anyone could be running 1-2 un-managed log-hives in the "back 40", just as well.
    Careful there Gregv. I posted exactly that and was called a "dirty apiary" and "mite bomb waiting to happen".

    Sad thing is, they are going into year 7 as my strongest hives. I opened the hives last week for the first time since March and the queen is still laying. They are still at 14 frames for brood and are still capping drones. The outside deeps and super are full of honey. The hives that have been fed sugar water are down to one deep with 5 frames of brood. I think I will add 6 more "set it and forget" it hives next year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunkool View Post
    Careful there Gregv. I posted exactly that and was called a "dirty apiary" and "mite bomb waiting to happen".
    I would not worry about it.
    Been mocked and slammed enough.
    Not a worry.

    Once you get the worthy bees going (not some treatment-dependent commercial package/nuc and the like), should not worry much.
    This year the first time I got offers to buy bees from me (by a nearby per-annual bee-looser who still runs into 100% loss every year after 5-6 years - no matter the treatments).
    If I winter more than enough bees, we'll talk then.
    Last edited by GregV; 11-17-2019 at 09:11 AM.
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    About Michael Thiele in the 1st post video. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-c...-idUSKBN1X31CE

    We invited him to speak at our bee meeting. His talk was over the top groovy, hippie, organic, treatment free, naturalistic, not that there is anything wrong with that if it works for you. It hasn't for me. It was all so esoteric the only thing I could remember the next day is that he suggests that hives be spaced 1000 feet apart. I asked on our message board what other people remembered. They cold not repeat anything else either.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj5tPU1q-Ns
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    Default Re: funny story, really short on facts but high on speculation

    I would like to see how long his spiritual bond with the bees would last with my son's bees!
    Frank

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