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    Default Wax moth prevention in storing

    I recently read that you can use Cedar Shavings to prevent wax moths. Fill your stored supers with cedar shavings between frames and store! Has anyone used this method and to what level of success. I live in Tennessee and have continually had wax moth issues.

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    Default Re: Wax moth prevention in storing

    That sounds rather labor intensive, and not too EZ. (easy)
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    Default Re: Wax moth prevention in storing

    Xentari: Bacillus thuringiensis var. aizawai
    Available through Amazon. Easiest control I know.
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    Default Re: Wax moth prevention in storing

    Cedar shavings do not work. Cedar helps a bit with moths drawn to wool only because it masks the smell of the wool but does not kill the moths. It will do nothing for wax moths. As Herbhome stated, Bacillus thuringiensis var. aizawai works very well. The Kurstaki strain also works very well (this is the one I personally use) and is easier to find in small quantities and is less expensive.

    Paramoth can also work well but is temperature sensitive. When wax moth larvae becomes an issue, it is too cold in my area for the Paramoth to work properly.

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    Default Re: Wax moth prevention in storing

    Paramoth you have to keep an eye on in case it all evaporates on you.BT stays there and you dont have to worry about it.You can mix some up in a square tub and dip whole frames with foundation plus boxes turned on side to prevent them from eating your wooden ware.Oh and some on tops and bottoms so the cant eat into them also.

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    Default Re: Wax moth prevention in storing

    I freeze all my frames (even foundationless) after use and then BT Sprayed on or paramoth in stacked boxes or clear plastic tubs.

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    >I recently read that you can use Cedar Shavings to prevent wax moths.

    Not true. It does not work on wax moths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murdock View Post
    I freeze all my frames (even foundationless) after use and then BT Sprayed on or paramoth in stacked boxes or clear plastic tubs.
    ^^ THIS ^^

    I don't freeze frames after extraction though. I used Xentari until my super count got above 40. Now I use Paramoth so I don't have to remove and replace frames after honey extraction.
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    Default Re: Wax moth prevention in storing

    I freeze all of our frames, 3 days, figure around 500 super frames now, the chest freezer holds around 60 at a time, some cycles and all are done. We do store ours in our basement. After freezing I put them back in supers, stack them up and cover the top one with door screening. Been doing this for years and have never had a wax moth issue.

    Frames waiting to be done are kept in plastic tubs with a tight lid in case a wax moth is wandering around. The tubs hold around 20 frames.

    I would use BT but don't want to spray frames that are used for honey production, no problem spraying brood frames.
    Zone 6b: 27 hives in Maryland, Carniolan, Italian mix mutts: Still learning - started bees spring of 2014.

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    Anyone have an Amazon link for the right BT to use?
    Beekeeping 6 Years - 12 production hives and about 12 nucs - Treatment OAV Only

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    Default Re: Wax moth prevention in storing

    Quote Originally Posted by e-spice View Post
    Anyone have an Amazon link for the right BT to use?
    XenTari BT
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickR View Post
    Thanks RickR!
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    Default Re: Wax moth prevention in storing

    I bought mine from this seller on ebay who claims that it is fresh and direct from the factory: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Xentari-BT-...8AAOSwofdbVfYi. $40 with shipping. You do not need to be a member of ebay to order. Order goes through paypal and you need not be a member of paypal either. Credit card works. Just ordered a few days ago so will report back if it is not fresh. J

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    It is much cheaper, but has it expired? I won't buy from a seller who doesn't state that it is fresh. J

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    I bought 2 bags of it from the link above. My honey super frames were treated and haven't had a single wax moth problem in the 2 months since it has been applied. I use 3 teaspoons per gallon and a gallon will treat about 80 frames.
    I wish the manufacturer would put an expiration date on the packages.

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    Default Re: Wax moth prevention in storing

    Eric, they do have a code on the package, but you have to decode it. There is a thread here about it from last year. I will post it if I can find it. J

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    Default Re: Wax moth prevention in storing

    Post #18 explains how to read the code: https://www.beesource.com/forums/sho...ld-Stock/page2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fivej View Post
    Post #18 explains how to read the code: https://www.beesource.com/forums/sho...ld-Stock/page2
    Yes, I sent a request to Valent Biosciences with the lot number and never got a reply. They really need to amend their label. I submitted another request, so we will see if they reply.

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    Default Re: Wax moth prevention in storing

    Quote Originally Posted by Fivej View Post
    Post #18 explains how to read the code: https://www.beesource.com/forums/sho...ld-Stock/page2
    Thanks for pointing to this thread. The Lot Number's first 3 digits indicate manufacture date. They are as follows:
    2016 249-260
    2017 261-272
    2018 273-284
    2019 285-297

    My Lot Number is 280 which says it was manufactured 8/2018 and since Xentari has a 3 year shelf, it is a good price for the product.

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