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    Default How early can I pull the supers?

    I have a hive that swarmed. There are 2 full supers on it. My new extractor won't arrive until a week from today. Can I pull the supers now, store them in my kitchen and extract them in a week when I pull the other hives supers? My concern is the hive will get robbed because of the low population. I have the entrance reduced to two bee width. Thanks!

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    Default Re: How early can I pull the supers?

    Sure. I'd put them in a trash bag so that ants aren't attracted to them. A freezer would be even better.

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    Default Re: How early can I pull the supers?

    Trash bag was my thought as well. I could set them on my hot sunny deck prior to extraction to warm them up?

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    Default Re: How early can I pull the supers?

    Yes, but some honey might start to run out of them if they aren't all capped.

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    Default Re: How early can I pull the supers?

    Without freezing the frames my concern would be shb eggs and larvae.

    You mentioned you have "a hive that swarmed," any others that could protect the frames?
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    Default Re: How early can I pull the supers?

    Thanks. I've never had an issue with shb. Once I put a super from a hive that was getting too tall on a smaller hive for safe keeping. Safe guard it they did!, they ate it all up. Grrr.

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    Default Re: How early can I pull the supers?

    The safest place is on a hive with bees.

    Crazy Roland

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    Default Re: How early can I pull the supers?

    agree with roland. that's what i do, especially because we have shb here.
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    Default Re: How early can I pull the supers?

    As some others have stated, if you don't have a freezer to hold your supers, the best place for them is on the hive until you're ready to extract. Otherwise you're likely to end up with trash bags full of worms and goo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bee Arthur View Post
    As some others have stated, if you don't have a freezer to hold your supers, the best place for them is on the hive until you're ready to extract. Otherwise you're likely to end up with trash bags full of worms and goo.
    I’m confused. You’re saying his super is filled with smb larvae?

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    Default Re: How early can I pull the supers?

    I believe Bee Arthor is saying that it WILL be slimed when the SHB eggs hatch in the future.

    Crazy Roland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roland View Post
    I believe Bee Arthor is saying that it WILL be slimed when the SHB eggs hatch in the future.

    Crazy Roland
    Apologies for my confusion but are you guys saying that his capped honey supers have smb eggs in them? Where? In the honey? Otherwise I don’t understand where smb larvae will slime these up if removed and placed in a bag.

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    Default Re: How early can I pull the supers?

    There could be eggs in tiny cracks and crevices that you don't even notice--you certainly won't see the eggs themselves. My opinion is that you have to assume there are eggs in your boxes. You could roll the dice and just bag them up, but I suspect the beetles would teach you a hard lesson soon enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bee Arthur View Post
    There could be eggs in tiny cracks and crevices that you don't even notice--you certainly won't see the eggs themselves. My opinion is that you have to assume there are eggs in your boxes. You could roll the dice and just bag them up, but I suspect the beetles would teach you a hard lesson soon enough.
    Makes total sense. Thanks. Also glad to hear the eggs aren’t imbedded in the honey.

    So then would it be a good idea to put my extracted frames in the freezer before putting them back in the hives? To kill any potential eggs?

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    Default Re: How early can I pull the supers?

    So then would it be a good idea to put my extracted frames in the freezer before putting them back in the hives? To kill any potential eggs?
    Freezing isn't necessary if you extract and put the "sticky" frames right back on the hives; leaving the frames sit around for a couple days is a recipe for slime.
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    As stated the best place for your supers is on a hive. you can move your supers to a stronger Hive and add let them take care of it

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    Default Re: How early can I pull the supers?

    No worries. My extractor arrived Thursday and the frames survived the week of storage in the bag. Spun them out on Friday. No slime. No moths. But a lot of good info here so thank you.

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    Default Re: How early can I pull the supers?

    Good deal. Generally, SHB do not survive well in our winters, but can hitchhike a ride in hives and packages from the South.

    All is well that ends well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roland View Post
    Good deal. Generally, SHB do not survive well in our winters, but can hitchhike a ride in hives and packages from the South.

    All is well that ends well.

    Crazy Roland
    I never thought about hitch hikers Roland. 3 of my hives are CA spring packages so very possible. I continue to learn.

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    Default Re: How early can I pull the supers?

    If you can keep them dry enough they would probably do ok. They would NOT do ok in plastic bags. SHB would be the big worry and wax moths next. Ants would be low on my list in my climate, but I've been in climates where the ants would find them in about five minutes...
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