Last years supers smell fermented
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    Default Last years supers smell fermented

    I was placing on supers that are for last year. I use 9 frames and they are all with good condition with clean quality comb. I noticed that some of them have a smell that I would call fermented as they may have had some honey left in them. Can these frames ne used or are they a problem?

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    Default Re: Last years supers smell fermented

    Do the frames have pollen? That may be what you're smelling.
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    Default Re: Last years supers smell fermented

    Comb with fermented honey or pollen can be washed out with a spray nozzle in the kitchen sink with cool water or a light spray from a garden hose to remove the leftovers. Comb should never smell funky. Moldy frames can be given a bleach bath to brighten them up.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Default Re: Last years supers smell fermented

    They are not moldy as I toss moldy frames. I will try washing them out. I had a lot of froames left over from last year that still had some honey. I will check for pollen.

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    Default Re: Last years supers smell fermented

    I threw in the moldy frames part for others that may read this thread. I over wintered full frames of honey two years ago and did not have a problem until the wax moths found them. Used them all for splits the following spring. When SHB slime my frames, I do the same thing after freezing. Bees go right to work cleaning them up after a good rinse to get most of the nastiness out.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Default Re: Last years supers smell fermented

    I store my supers wet and sometimes they smell fermented.
    Never bothered the bees.

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    Default Re: Last years supers smell fermented

    They are fine.

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    Default Re: Last years supers smell fermented

    Fermented honey is not really good for the bees, is it?

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    Default Re: Last years supers smell fermented

    If that is your considered opinion, act accordingly.

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    Default Re: Last years supers smell fermented

    Quote Originally Posted by Vance G View Post
    If that is your considered opinion, act accordingly.
    Was that response to me?

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    Default Re: Last years supers smell fermented

    RTBBEE,you are correct for large amounts,especially when overwintering.
    The small amount left in extracted supers put on during a flow will have no effect.

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    Default Re: Last years supers smell fermented

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Grimshaw View Post
    RTBBEE,you are correct for large amounts,especially when overwintering.
    The small amount left in extracted supers put on during a flow will have no effect.
    Ahh, That makes sense.

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    Default Re: Last years supers smell fermented

    yes i would use them, as the small amount left is not an issue. Next year dry them before storing. I place mine back on the hive for a week. I find they put some in the first one if direct placed. So I place an empty medium then the wet comb. At times you may get a few Spike of comb built into the opening.

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