Summer Solstice and swarm??
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    Default Summer Solstice and swarm??

    Is there a relationship between the summer solstice and swarms, like that's when they peak? - Mike

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    Default Re: Summer Solstice and swarm??

    Well, clearly the swarm season down south is largely over.
    It has been done for weeks and months.
    Just some follow-ups and absconds and such left.

    The summer solstice, on the other hand, is here and now (still pretty much is).

    So that is your answer right there.
    Former "smoker boy". Classic, square 12 frame Dadants >> Long hive/Short frame/chemical-free experimentations.

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    Default Re: Summer Solstice and swarm??

    Mike, our swarm season here in Virginia runs largely from April 1st through mid June. In other words, our prime season is a month past and any swarms now are more unusual but not rare.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Default Re: Summer Solstice and swarm??

    I would only add, as posited here on this forum before that there does appear to be a correlation between Growing-Degree-Days and swarming activity such that if you were looking for a metric to forecast when you might expect swarms year-over-year this might be one of the more reliable ways to do so.

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    Default Re: Summer Solstice and swarm??

    Thanks all - Mike

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    In the Bee Forum section there is a subsection "Post Your Swarm Dates".

    It is organized by state. Find your state & skim it. That will give you a general idea about swarms for your location.
    Last edited by Steve in PA; 06-25-2019 at 01:33 PM.

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    Default Re: Summer Solstice and swarm??

    With my hives there seems to be a direct correlation between putting my luggage in my trunk and pulling out of the driveway to go on vacation and them deciding its time to bug out. J

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    Default Re: Summer Solstice and swarm??

    My idea of vacation is putting my wife's luggage in the car and me staying home to play with the bees. Seriously, you need to get your priorities in order.

    But back to the solstice, now is the time to be making queens for next year's production hives. There is a strong belief that queens mated after the summer soltice will be the best producers. I read it on the internet so I know it is true.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Default Re: Summer Solstice and swarm??

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve in PA View Post
    In the Bee Forum section there is a subsection "Post Your Swarm Dates".

    It is organized by state. Find your state & skim it. That will give you a general idea about swarms for your location.
    Oh, thanks! - Mike

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    Default Re: Summer Solstice and swarm??

    Quote Originally Posted by JWPalmer View Post
    My idea of vacation is putting my wife's luggage in the car and me staying home to play with the bees. Seriously, you need to get your priorities in order.

    But back to the solstice, now is the time to be making queens for next year's production hives. There is a strong belief that queens mated after the summer soltice will be the best producers. I read it on the internet so I know it is true.
    JW - you pose an interest logistics question. For each queen to be raised, you need supporting resources at least temporarily. To keep her going, she needs to have a hive. As I understand your statement, you are going to need a hive (or a hive in sections) per queen. A nuc per queen would be too small . Correct? - Mike

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    Big Grin Re: Summer Solstice and swarm??

    Quote Originally Posted by Fivej View Post
    With my hives there seems to be a direct correlation between putting my luggage in my trunk and pulling out of the driveway to go on vacation and them deciding its time to bug out. J
    I got a good laugh out of that.
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    Default Re: Summer Solstice and swarm??

    A nuc is the perfect size to raise your queens that will be over wintered and then hived next spring. I over wintered nine nucs and and all survived. I let one starve in late March, beekeeper error, because they diid not have enough stores for spring build up.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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