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  1. #41
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    Default Re: Set It and Forget It?

    SunKool,

    Is your profile up to date? It says you have been beekeeping for 2 years. Your hives were there for 6 years. Did you take them over or did you set them up?

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  3. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by trottet1 View Post
    SunKool,

    Is your profile up to date? It says you have been beekeeping for 2 years. Your hives were there for 6 years. Did you take them over or did you set them up?
    I don't know where you see 2 years. I have been a member here since 2016. I just do not post.
    I set the hives up. They were started with nucs from Indian Summer Honey farm.

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    Under the about you section in your profile it says " # of years in beekeeping. 2.

    I just want to make sure that when someone says they have never lost a hive to mites, that they weren't beekeeping for only a handful of years. It sounds like you have quite a few years under your belt though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbol View Post
    Treatment Free is mite bombing the region around their dirty apiaries big time.tf is a type set it and forget it, no matter what you claim in your defense of being tf, your varorra mites carry efb and can infect other hives, as with other diseases and viruses. Yes, your tf bees are adapted, but they are also dirty mite bombs! Disgusting! Bad Beehvaers!
    Do what thou wilt.
    Hence the reason for not posting!
    If they do not agree with your way, You are considered a "Dirty Apiary"

    Can you show proof that bees cannot learn to defend themselves against the mites like they have other problems for the past few thousand years?
    Yet you criticize someone that is trying!

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    Fixed.
    Did not know you have to change that. I started in 2014.

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    I will accept your experience in Spring Hill Florida. Congratulations.

    Will you accept the advice given is for NY?
    It is not true that you cannot teach an old dog new tricks.
    They can learn them, they just can't do them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltybee View Post
    I will accept your experience in Spring Hill Florida. Congratulations.

    Will you accept the advice given is for NY?
    "Set It and Forget It" for NY should work just as well (granted locally adapted, hardy bee).

    Keep in mind, FL has it worse - there is brood generation around the year pretty much - non-stop.
    Meaning, the mite-generation is also non-stop - unless, bees handle the issue.
    Former "smoker boy". Classic, square 12 frame Dadants >> Long hive/Short frame/chemical-free experimentations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregV View Post
    "Set It and Forget It" for NY should work just as well.
    I should win the lottery, just does not seem to happen!
    It is not true that you cannot teach an old dog new tricks.
    They can learn them, they just can't do them.

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    Here is non-English channel of a guy who does exactly that - Set It and Forget it (in the attic of old homestead).
    They visit it a couple times year (spring/fall).
    Equipment - large horizontal rigs plus a battery of swarm traps.
    Bees - whatever local mutts (pretty darn hot bees - to be honest).
    Location - compatible to zone 3 USA (plenty of brown bears around - hence the attic).

    He kinda treats them and kinda feeds them.
    Kinda, granted he is never there (several hours of drive, one-way).
    So, the bees just auto-manage themselves best they can.

    Forget the audio, but click about and look at the video and his setup.
    There are several, multi-year videos about this ongoing project.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvxqk-xqH8U
    Former "smoker boy". Classic, square 12 frame Dadants >> Long hive/Short frame/chemical-free experimentations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltybee View Post
    I should win the lottery, just does not seem to happen!
    OK, I just posted a link to a place much colder than NY.
    Set it and forget it - the real-life practical channel.
    The dude a bit crazy, but makes it for a good show and he gets his honey (on a good year, obviously).
    On some bad years he lost most of the bees.
    On the good years, every darn trap was full of bees AND honey.
    If they swarm, they swarm - but the large rigs full of the frames and the traps auto-handle most issues.
    Hehe.

    All in all - if you don't manage your bees to death, they might be actually better off.
    Examples are plenty.
    Former "smoker boy". Classic, square 12 frame Dadants >> Long hive/Short frame/chemical-free experimentations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltybee View Post
    I will accept your experience in Spring Hill Florida. Congratulations.

    Will you accept the advice given is for NY?
    Absolutely not. I think it should be tried everywhere but who am I to tell one how to keep their bees? Much less call them a fool for trying something out of the box.

    I am not saying invest your whole crop into the theory. Maybe you will find that it can be done anywhere, maybe not. Without trying you will never know.

    Just for the record I have learned alot from some on here. Michael Bush mainly, but also from Michael Palmer, Lauri, and Ethan to name a few. All from different parts of the continent and have found that most that works for them works for me in Florida.

    The bees always have and will continue to survive without man. You just might have to let them!

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    "Much less call them a fool for trying something out of the box."

    Must have missed "fool" the part. Some very negative views of the plan, some very dim views of the beekeeping style, that is a far cry from calling the person a fool. Little bit of the internet attack flying freely here as well.
    It is not true that you cannot teach an old dog new tricks.
    They can learn them, they just can't do them.

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    Just because someone can claim that examples exist, where some thing has worked out in some special circumstance, does not make it feasible, advisable, likely, responsible, or many other possible adjectives. I suspect claims to support such ideas are fulfilling some other personal need.

    I have heard too, that people have jumped or fallen from planes without chutes and survived. Not an idea to be promoted.
    Frank

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltybee View Post

    Will you accept the advice given is for NY?
    mike syracuse ny
    Whatever you subsidize you get more of. Ronald Reagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunkool View Post
    And for someone to say they lost their hives to efb do to someone else is just appalling.
    would you feel the same if we were talking about american foulbrood?
    journaling the growth of a (mite) treatment free apiary started in 2010. 20+/- hives

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltybee View Post
    "Much less call them a fool for trying something out of the box."

    Must have missed "fool" the part. Some very negative views of the plan, some very dim views of the beekeeping style, that is a far cry from calling the person a fool. Little bit of the internet attack flying freely here as well.
    I was not referring to just this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunkool View Post
    I have been a member here since 2016. I just do not post.
    Your insensitive and callous remarks makes me wish you hadn't started.
    Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squarepeg View Post
    would you feel the same if we were talking about american foulbrood?
    I know I would not blame another beekeeper not knot knowing where it came from!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWPalmer View Post
    Your insensitive and callous remarks makes me wish you hadn't started.
    Sorry if I hurt your feelings! I do not see where I said anything of the sorts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWPalmer View Post
    Your insensitive and callous remarks makes me wish you hadn't started.
    Sorry if I hurt your feelings! I do not see where I said anything of the sorts.

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