Placement of cells into queenless colonies
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    Default Placement of cells into queenless colonies

    Sorry for so many questions lately. I split several colonies a few weeks ago to stop swarming. Now i have a few colonies with 2 deep brood boxes (no brood) and a few hundred pounds of honey on top of them just coming into capping. Since i don't have a brood chamber, When i add queen cells does it matter if I just put them in the top super or does it dramatically increase take rate by putting her in the bottom box near the entrance?
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    Default Re: Placement of cells into queenless colonies

    i just did this with 3 dozen nucs i made up
    -> just put the cells in the top gently between two brood frames
    -I did this had 100% hatch and acceptance. Not all mated though i had 4 total out of 33 that didnt get back mated successfully.

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    Default Re: Placement of cells into queenless colonies

    Quote Originally Posted by aran View Post
    i just did this with 3 dozen nucs i made up
    -> just put the cells in the top gently between two brood frames
    -I did this had 100% hatch and acceptance. Not all mated though i had 4 total out of 33 that didnt get back mated successfully.
    Thanks. yes that is what i'm doing on my mating nucs. The question is on large hives with 2 deeps and 3 supers, no brood, no queen. Does it matter if i just put it in the top box and save myself all the lifting or is there some reason to put in say the bottom box? I think it would only matter if i had a brood chamber down there.
    Terrence

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    Default Re: Placement of cells into queenless colonies

    If it is warm enough, I do not think there would be any difference. I think it is warm enough now.

    Requeening with a queen cell in the top is a pretty common commercial procedure from my reading.
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    Default Re: Placement of cells into queenless colonies

    [QUOTE=kaizen;1733913]Thanks. The question is on large hives with 2 deeps and 3 supers, no brood, no queen.

    Big hive, no brood? I would try to give them a frame of brood and place cell adjacent to the brood. Also, I would put it where you want the brood nest to be, IOW, the bottom box.

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    Default Re: Placement of cells into queenless colonies

    It is not true that you cannot teach an old dog new tricks.
    They can learn them, they just can't do them.

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    Default Re: Placement of cells into queenless colonies

    Quote Originally Posted by Saltybee View Post
    Thanks. That had a lot of info
    Terrence

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    Default Re: Placement of cells into queenless colonies

    It depends how dense the bees are. If there are not many bees in the super, I would put it lower down where there are more bees. If the super is pretty full of bees, it works.
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    Default Re: Placement of cells into queenless colonies

    Well said.
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