Is a Queen Gate the same as a Travel Gate?
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    Default Is a Queen Gate the same as a Travel Gate?

    And does anyone have a good source to buy them?

    Mann Lake does not seem to have them, or perhaps they are under a different name. Ideally the gates that can be flipped over to double as mice gates.

    Suggestions?

    Thanks!
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    Default Re: Is a Queen Gate the same as a Travel Gate?

    I've been keeping bees for 45 years, have read hundreds of beekeeping books, thousands of beekeeping threads on forums and have never heard of either a "queen gate" or a "travel gate" until just this minute. Do you have a reference or a link to the terminology? Is this perhaps an entrance guard? Like a piece of equipment that goes over the entrance that has a queen excluder on it? Like a "queen includer?"
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    Default Re: Is a Queen Gate the same as a Travel Gate?

    karma: I think there is a terminology gap here. Here are some possibilities:

    1. Moving Screen. These are generally attachments to the primary opening that can be shut off easily to trap ALL bees inside. Many commercially available ones can also serve as "robbing screens" because they create confusion to non-resident bees trying to access the hive. A metal or plastic flap can be moved to close off all entrances, thus converting the "robbing screen" into a "moving screen."

    2. "Entrance Guard with Excluder." Mann Lake sells this product. It is a device placed across the entire entrance of the hive that will allow worker bees to enter and exit the hive, but has a portion of a queen excluder that prevents a queen from leaving the hive. I actually have one of these. I only use if when I catch a swarm. I hive a new swarm and place the Entrance Guard with Excluder across the opening for about a week. This helps force the swarm to accept the hive I have provided them.

    3. Entrance Reducer. This is a strip of wood or plastic that has 2 openings cut into it and can be positioned at the entrance of the hive in 2 different positions. They are used to control the size of the entrance to the hive and are changed seasonally to help colonies prevent robbing. All bees, including the queen, can pass through either opening setting of an Entrance Reducer.

    4. Mouse Guards. This is a strip of metal (usually) that fits across the entire opening of the hive that has holes in it large enough for all bees to pass through, but too small for a mouse to pass through. There is often a metal slide that will cover the holes so that it can also serve as a moving screen.

    I hope this answers your question or makes it easier to clarify what you are asking.
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    Default Re: Is a Queen Gate the same as a Travel Gate?

    Are you looking for one of these? https://beekeepcheap.com/collections...-entrance-gate

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    Default Re: Is a Queen Gate the same as a Travel Gate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bush View Post
    I've been keeping bees for 45 years, have read hundreds of beekeeping books, thousands of beekeeping threads on forums and have never heard of either a "queen gate" or a "travel gate" until just this minute. Do you have a reference or a link to the terminology? Is this perhaps an entrance guard? Like a piece of equipment that goes over the entrance that has a queen excluder on it? Like a "queen includer?"
    Hello Michael,

    I think it might be a language barrier thing, as the beekeepers here in Puerto Rico are translating it back to English from Spanish. I am looking for the piece that goes over the hive when you rescue it from the wild so that they do not abscond. Although I have seen other listings in both Amazon and Ebay for this terminology.

    https://www.ebay.com/p/Queen-Bee-Hiv...ool/1766506056

    So my understanding is that this is a flippable piece we could put on when we first start the hive to keep the queen in, and then flip it over to protect from mice and iguanas moving forward?


    Iguanas are a problem in Puerto Rico!

    We prefer Mann Lake normally, no wonder I could not find it!
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    Default Re: Is a Queen Gate the same as a Travel Gate?

    Nope not this.. I dont understand how this would work to be honest. As the entrance is rectangular? Drill a hole or something?
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    Default Re: Is a Queen Gate the same as a Travel Gate?

    Fantastic answer, yes this is exactly what we were looking for "Entrance Guard with Excluder" Thank you!
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    Default Re: Is a Queen Gate the same as a Travel Gate?

    If you are running a bottom entrance and block the top entrance (if there is one) all you have to do is put an excluder on the bottom board and then the hive. The problem with any excluder on the entrance is it will get clogged with drones trying to get out.
    Michael Bush bushfarms.com/bees.htm "Everything works if you let it." ThePracticalBeekeeper.com 42y 40h 39yTF

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