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I donít want to hijack Johnís thread, but the ProVap and the Sublimox were introduced approximately the same time and developed independently. The Sublimox is mainly a 220v unit and sold primarily in Europe. The ProVap has both 110 and 220v versions.
If I get a 500 watt inverter and hook it up to the same car battery I currently use for vaporizing, how many hives could I treat before I need to recharge the battery (if any)? Or would I need to start driving my truck down to my bee yard to power the vaporizer?
The problem is of course, that just because someone makes a statement on the internet, it doesn't make it true. That is true for my statement, the Reddit statement and your comment as well. As for the Sublimox and ProVap being introduced about the same time and developed independently, I still think there's a high probability that one was copied after the other; unless you can support that statement with more facts, I'm willing to bet one came out before the other. Maybe "copied" is too strong of a word, and I should say "modeled after" or "inspired by." And knowing that the Europeans have been ahead of the US as far as OA vaporization/sublimation goes, I feel there is a high probability that they beat us to the punch on this one. I'm just applying critical thinking skills here, and I'm still allowing for the possibility that you're correct.
By the way, you aren't hijacking the thread; but contributing valuable information. There is a not nearly as much information out there about these unit as I'd like to see, and adding relevant information to the discussion should only boost the thread. To clarify my point, I brought the subject of copying up because some people will of course say that the Easy Vap is just a copy, and that it looks "too cheap." If it's true that the ProVap in turn is modeled after another unit, then that's relevant, and also a bit ironic.
I'm just glad I found out about Johno's Easy Vap, as my stronger hives have a high mite load and I'm tired of tinkering with other treatment methods, but spending $500 on this is not an option for me right now.
As a matter of interest the first time I saw this type of vaporizer being used it was the Sublimox way back , there were no others. At this time I was already trying to build band heater vaporizers but was struggling to find away to insert thr dose into a hot chamber. Once I saw the Sublimox I realised that it was the way to go, however machining plugs from PTFE would be expensive and was always searching for another way and when silicone plugs were mentioned along the way that became the answer to many problems. If one cares to go back into old postings on the DIY vaporizers and on the commercial site you will find that these postings pre date Larry and the Pro Vap, I thought that Larry had made a deal with the manufacturers of Sublimox to produce a 110 volt device to market in the USA, perhaps I was wrong.
As previously stated the PV and Sub were developed about the same time. However the small company that made the PV had no marketing experience nor did they speak English. Thus the Sub was marketed first. It was only after later contact through an interpreter and subsequent advertising that the PV gained popularity.
A key deciding factor for me was the digital temperature display on the ProVap 110 which is very useful with respect to indicating to the operator that the ProVap has reached operating temperature for use and when it displays a temperature of about 240 or more, most times all of the OA has been cooked off which helps to keep the amount of OA building up in the cap minimized.
Live Oak, you have a digital temperature display on both the Easy Vap and the Easy Vap Pro.
This is Lauri's original post.
Thankfully, the bees are smarter than I am. They are doing well, in spite of my efforts to help them.
I know what I want for Christmas now!
Great thread filled with lots of information. Thanks to all.
Doni Marie, Beekeeper since 2016
Currently 7 hives strong!
Does units are so simple, I don't know why everyone needs a video?
Well done John
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