Queen not going on dark wax.
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    Default Queen not going on dark wax.

    I'm told that the queen does not like to go on the dark wax on a foundation. Do I remove the wax and toss it, and keep the foundation. Do I throw the frame away and replace. If I keep the foundation, how to I clean it so the Queen will use it.

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    If the comb is disease free. If the comb has low chemical residues. Then I see no reason to not use it again. All combs become dark over time. The queen will use it.

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    Default Re: Queen not going on dark wax.

    Whoever told you queens do not like to lay on dark combs let us say, lacks perspective! Dark comb is not a bad thing necessarily. I would throw it away ONLY if a lot of brood disease shows up that does not go away when warm weather arrives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beeter View Post
    I'm told that the queen does not like to go on the dark wax on a foundation.
    Who told you that ? All other things being equal, bees absolutely love dark comb - the older and the stinkier (is that a word ?), the better. That's why old, smelly comb is ideal for use in bait traps ... because it's what the bees actually prefer.
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    They seem to prefer both new wax and old wax over in between. They winter better on dark comb.
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    Default Re: Queen not going on dark wax.

    Do they even know the comb is dark? When inside the hive is probably pretty dark ?

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    Default Re: Queen not going on dark wax.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beeter View Post
    I'm told that the queen does not like to go on the dark wax on a foundation. Do I remove the wax and toss it, and keep the foundation. Do I throw the frame away and replace. If I keep the foundation, how to I clean it so the Queen will use it.
    Respectfully, I would keep the comb and throw away the adviser....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Goose View Post
    Respectfully, I would keep the comb and throw away the adviser....
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    >Do they even know the comb is dark?

    Not per se but they can sense the layers of cocoons. They chew them out and mix them with wax to make cappings for brood.
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    I love dark comb. After I retire it from a hive i use it for swarm cap boxes as swarms love dark comb for some reason.
    But there is a limit to that as I do try to get my brood comb rotated out in 5 ish years due to chemical buildup but until then, keep it and use it. (and no you cant clean it)

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    Default Re: Queen not going on dark wax.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Bush View Post
    >Do they even know the comb is dark?

    Not per se but they can sense the layers of cocoons. They chew them out and mix them with wax to make cappings for brood.
    Well, that's cool.....I did not know that.
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